ATTN: HG GROUPS - bonus distribution opportunity

You'll be biting your lip soon enough. I look forward to making you look like a fool.

Hey Moody, If you can garuntee 10,000 bucks a clip hey, fuck it.. Ill give you all the PickledEGGS stuff.. Surely you can get some of that sold for 10K yeah?

Reckon you could get 10 good clips out of the whole DVD? Fuck dude, 100,000USD would be sweet. Ill sign the shit over today.

Mate, you've been in the mobile video game for all of 5 mins. Sit back and watch the market for a while.. Then we'll see who's the fool for claiming to be able to make groups 10,000 for a bush jumping clip.

if a video isn't that good, it's really hard to say. I'm not going to release anything that I don't have confidence in. I wouldn't release anything that was could be labeled as a "low standard of video" but somebody that releases clips like that can expect a couple hundred of dollars. but once again, I'm not releasing anything that isn't high quality.

realistically, HG clips is about 10% of the video I'm getting distributed for the mobile phones.

I'm not dealing with simple bush jumping clips. And no, I wouldn't touch your footage based on principle alone.

HAHA.. What a suprise.

Wow thats a long way off of the near certain $1000 you said a few hours back, your prices change quickly!
but anyway, okay so a couple of hundred dollars minimum yeah?

So will you put your money where your mouth is as you said you would and garuntee at a set minimum per clip?, and even if the clip doesnt make that much youll make the rest up out of your own pocket? because if your so sure in what your doing it wont be a big risk, and with a garunteed price minimum per video, more groups are likely to take part

All good points.

my revenue quotes aren't changing, you are just asking about video clips that are low in quality. im not releasing anything low in quality so to answer this I can do nothing more but give an estimate.

I'm not going to garuantee anything out of my own pocket. just come to me with good footage, good clips, ill have it edited and then the money will come in. it's really simple. if you have good footage then lets work together and you'll make sweet money. nobody will garuantee you anything in the entertainment industry, im simply saying what can be made with a high quality clip.

moody I love the way you avoid everything you dont wanna answer, why wont you garuntee on a set minimum, if you think each clip will get at least $1000 why not garuntee AT LEAST half of what you think it will get so $500 at least per clip, considering you think each clip can make upto $10,000 in total, $500 isnt alot to ask is it, if you wont garuntee just $500 then you really dont have much believe in this project of yours, how can you expect others too.
Your fooling youself man and trying to fool everyone else too.

You basically already have a few times in this thread. Once again your story changes.

Sorry but nobody in this business garuantees anything. I'm simply telling you what can be made off a 2 minute video. Of course groups will make $500 off a quality 2 minute video at least but im not signing to it because in this business nobody signs anything like that and I'm not going to start doing that. I have plenty of belief in my projects but nobody would ever sign a garuantee like that for anything in this business. The only person fooling themselves here are the ones that let their minds get clouded with doubt. Being skeptical comes with the territory but you need to be optimistic and not so full of doubt.

PWNED!

A garuantee is me signing a contract that says that you will be paid at least $500 per video I release for a group. I have told people earlier in the thread what can be made, that is not a "garuantee" of me saying that I will pay you the difference. Once again you put words in my mouth.

So you're willing to state that right here and now?

Thats a long way from $10,000 that you were claiming before Moody. How can your figures change from 10,000 to 500?

he was asking about "low quality videos"

but im not releasing low quality videos. read everything next time, rather than what you just want to read.

PWNEDxCORE!!!

Im not really saying it has to be in writing but you said a few pages back that a group will "definately make $X if they have a good clip"

You gave a definate.

Yes, for a good clip, $10,000 is possible to make, with no questions. I'll say it right here that groups will make at least $500 off of a clip but I wouldn't sign a contract stating that because anything is possible. I'm only working with a handfull of groups with high quality clips so they'll be making much more than that.

if its an of course, why wont you garuntee it? is it so that when it all falls through you can say "I didnt garuntee anything, I owe you nothing"?

if over the course of a few years clips will make upto $10,000 there is no reason why you cant garuntee $500 in the first qauter, even if it doesnt make $500 in the first qauter, it can come out of your pocket now and you can reclaim your loosing from the other $9,500 that will be made through the following year? what do you have to lose? if your not chatting shit, nothing.

So as you said, put your money where your mouth is, and give a garuntee.

If you cant do that, you know your lying, and everyone else will too.

And you cant say we need to be optomistic about it, if someone said to you "wow ive got a greatr deal you'll make $10,000 but I cant even garuntee $500 minimum" wouldnt you think wtf?

belly, nobody signs garauntees in the entertainment industry when it comes to revenue. if a group has good footage then we can make it happen. nobody has ever signed a garuantee for any of my work, and there's no reason for me to start some new trend which in reality is just dumb business.

Dumb buisness for you yes because you know you will end up out of , but for the people that are giving you the footage for you to line your pockets its not dumb buisness, its called making sure your not being conned

nobody signs garuantees and there's no need for me to start now. I rather just work with the people that trust me and want to make big things happen. if you doubt me then don't work with me.

I already laid the facts out that once the revenue comes in strong I'll be sponsoring the groups with me and even willing to buy them a new camera. on top of getting 30%, you can't ask for a better deal than that.

To stop alot of people thinking your a liar is enough of a reason isn't it?



see this is whats making me laugh, you have no problem with throwing around random numbers but you wont commit to ANYTHING! and why? because you know that the esitmates that you are giving out are total bollocks.

its like me saying

"Hey guys send me your footage and you could possibly make 10 million dollars!!! but I cant even garuntee you one dollar."

We want to see some real figures, fucking tree models and shit. How this 10grand gets build up? How much does consumer pay for one clip, how much other companies take.... basically, tell us what companies have told you.


Is this normal? Why would it be confidental. Is the reason that companies dont want to be associated with you Image file not present in the recovered backup


What the fuck dude? first of all three minutes contains 15seconds 12 times, not 20 and when did Elliot offer anything. And I dont think prices and expences sum up linearly. This isnt drug business, this is more cruel

But please dude, stop ruining the forums with nonsense ranting that doesnt really even concern you. You do it in bunch of threads.

I'll work on getting some more facts like a tree model this coming week. I can't release company names I have signed with because my lawyer said not to and when he assists me with business such as this, I listen.

From what I have seen clips generally run in between the prices of $0.10 to $1.50. I'm going to have some clips (not HG clips) that will run 10-15 minutes at most and they can sell for $2.00 I've been told.

Different companies take different percentages. Some deals I have signed are 80% me, 20% distributor and a couple deals signed are 60% me, 40% distributor. It varies, but if I deliver more than X amounts of clips, that 60% can turn into 75%. Different companies offer different deals.

Okay, we stay tuned for some facts.... meanwhile, could you ask your lawyer why company names should be kept in dark?

probably the same reason why no ones ever seen my pet lion.....

it doesnt exist

I just wanted to look at the chain of events.



If you have good video and it's a hit with the distribution you could make $10,000 at the least with one 3-5 minute video through me.

You can make $10,000 for a 2-5 minute video through me doing this.

over a period of a year or a couple of years you can make $10,000 off one clip.

if this works out the way I see it can work out I'll buy every group in here that submits footage a nice 3 ccd camera on top of the 30% but it will take several months to get to that point.

Not every clip will be a big hit but with the right content and good material, a clip can achieve this revenue.

I'm not lying to anybody here Elliot about making the $10,000 per video on the mobile phones.

Reality is, I already have an order to have 1,000 videos produced

realistically, HG clips is about 10% of the video I'm getting distributed for the mobile phones.

With homegrown I want to release 200-300 video clips,


Hold on a sec. I thought 10% of 1000 is 100 videos. How can it be 300 now? Do you even know your own deals and business or are you just making stuff up as you go along?



Now the story changes.



it can make you a thousand dollars or it can make you a lot more.

I expect between $1,000 to $2,500 for the first quarter.

So you're saying that at least one 2min homegrown clip alone will make at least 1000USD in the first 3 months? Is that what you're saying?

And what if it doesnt?
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Yes that is what I'm saying. If it doesn't, the clip was either not that great or it will have come pretty damn close to making that amount.

AHA.. Fuck how your story changes Moody. All the way from 10,000 to 500 in less than a day.



Of course groups will make $500 off a quality 2 minute video

I'll say it right here that groups will make at least $500 off of a clip

nobody signs garuantees and there's no need for me to start now.

that is not a "garuantee" of me saying that I will pay you



Fuck I love you Moody. You are such good value on these forums when you try to get projects off the ground. The way your story changes is pure art. Image file not present in the recovered backup

nice one Elliot, was thinking of doignt his but im too lazy haha. This just makes it easier to see what a ballshitter he is.

We'll have to wait a few hours now though for him to think up some bullshit story to try and cover his tracks Image file not present in the recovered backup