ATTN: HG GROUPS - bonus distribution opportunity

over the next year I expect to release at least 2,000 clips.

you can twist my words however you want.

what I find most humorous elliot is that you aren't making much money with your current videos through the distribution you have. all companies are telling me the same amount of money that can be made off of the mobile phone distribution working through them.

you either have a shit deal with distributors or you are lying to the groups and pocketing money.

Im not twisting anything dude. All I did was quote you and not even say anything. Those are your words and I didnt edit them.



Sorry, when did I show you the books? I dont ever remember devuldging any financial information to you ever so Im unsure of how you'd know such details Moody? Or are you making shit up again? Changing your story as you go along?

why are you trying to turn it around to elliots deal? elliot aint in it for the money, hes doing it coz hes part of the homegrown community and actually wants to help groups, where as you jsut wanna get fat from the profits.

And in elliots last post, what has you expecting to sell over 2000 videos gotta do with anything? he was pointing out that you change yuour story so much, your words havnt been twisted, thay have been put into one post so people can see how much shit you chat

not quite elliot but I read what you've wrote about what you're offering and from what I read you have shit deals compared to what I have signed. but keep trying, im sure your 20 pages of bitching is amusing somebody (other than belly).

What part of my deals are shit exactly? Please provide links and quotes to back up your statement. We are both offering 30% and garunteeing nothing. So on paper they are the same no? Are you calling your own deal shit now as well?

The only difference is that I have experience in the market and have already made groups money. You on the other hand are yet to prove shit.

Just looking at your posts. That's all. Unlike you I do have a life, I can't sit on here all day digging up posts.

I'm offering groups the same % as you but letting them know that once the big money comes in I'm willing to sponsor the groups that I'm working with.

So far I'm going to be working with about 5 groups and I'm looking for another 5 groups that have strong content and some quantity. Which ever groups want to work with me, the more power to them. I hope you do help out the groups I'm not working with though and I hope that it benefits them.

What the fuck are you on about? Thats your reasoning? haha.. Dude, it took me all of 2 mins to find those posts.. It wasnt hard considering they're all in the same thread.



Why wouldnt I be working with the groups that you're working with. Dont tell me your deal is exclusive? haha.

To all the groups. I am so confident in my work that my deal is non-exclusive. Meaning you can still go off and work with other content producers as well.

elliot, you are nobody to me. do your business and goodluck. I hope you help out the groups you work with. enough said. it's time to end the random bullshit.

and yes, my deal is non-exclusive. I know I'll be making the groups so much money that they won't want to work with anybody else.

That's it, time out for both of you!

Im happy to end it mate. Stop making up bullshit and lying and I wont ever even make another post to you.

there's no lying and bullshit. im simply sharing the information that the companies and my lawyer tells me and the money I've seen paid out in the books. maybe it's time to accept the fact that you don't know my business and just move on.

I dont think anyone wants to read 19 pages of you two bitching at each other.

lol, I know.

it's getting to the point that I will just block elliot.

LOL

elliot, get over it. what I'm saying is coming straight from the companies and my lawyer.

And change that sig dude.. Its fucking gay.

elliot, goodbye. you are being blocked. goodluck with what you're doing.

Yeah, that way you wont have to respond to my questions about your bullshit claims and promises. Good move.

sorry elliot, but I can't read what you're writing. Image file not present in the recovered backup

Why bother replying then?

Good to see that you run away from a fight Moody.

Did you also used to go hide under your bed when Daddy walked in with the belt?

Hah? I think you can... since you saw him posting? Or dotn I know anything about ignore user thingy? Reply to my PM moody!

replied. pm me your phone number if you want me to call you.

I can pretty much garauntee that my pay out % from the distributors is larger. My lawyer has sgined me to deals that are hard to get with the lowest payout being 60% but even my 60% deals increase to 75% when I deal in bulk. I'm dealing with so much bulk video that they will sign me to very nice deals and with my lawyer, the same guy that is signing the deals for distribution for MGM and Paramount animation, the deals I get are better and I know is for a fact. Due to me dealing in bulk my payouts will range from 75%-80% and more than likely Elliot is recieving payouts of between 50% to 60% which is more around the industry standard for people that do not deal in bulk. My lowest payout is 60% but when I turn in bulk clips which is more than 400 clips at one time, my % increases to 75%.

oh god

such children. I wish there was no business being done on these forums. This should all be discussed over the phone. I hate seeing these rediculous posts with bitching like little girls. Thats not what these forums are for.

Some people make vids for the love of making vids... and thats what this forum is for. If they want to make money off it, it's their problem to contact you.

I agree but really there is no way to let everybody know and most people on here don't want to talk business on the phone, which I would prefer as well. Thanks for the feedback though, I do agree.

I love the childishness of the adult members here, im 15 and I think I act more mature than these guys.

Dude, you did the fun with the box and fastforward singing things... Image file not present in the recovered backup

If I had the chance, I would shit in your mouth, you faggoty cunt-shit.

seriously dude no one works for free, if he's such a saint tell him to do all the work and give you 100% of the profits if he loves you guys so much. here's what goes on in the real world, you clock in you clock out, you don't go to mcdonalds put in a 8 hour day and go "OH NO THANKS I DON'T NEED A CHECK I'M IN IT FOR THE MCMOOBYMUFFINS AND FRENCH FRIES I'M PART OF THE MCDONALDS COMMUNITY" fucking a dude. Elliot might be more trustable to you guys and maybe he does come with a better deal, thats not for me to say. but what you are saying is fucking retarded what is he mother terasa or ghandi or some shit give me a break

BW, you getting me the footage?

And seriously, I cant read you posts, dont make any sense to us foreigners "IN IT FOR THE MCMOOBYMUFFINS " What? Image file not present in the recovered backup