03 October 2005, 03:03 UTC#211
you have a really gay name moody...hollymood entertainment, I felt like reminding you. your an okay guy so dont get pissy...or moody...!! hahahahaha im so clever. u get it? his name is moody and I said dont get moody like like bitchy. hahahaha I friggin rule.
03 October 2005, 03:05 UTC#212
so now elliot is offering this to everyone, he's selling 15 second clips and your selling 3 min clips, his groups are making 1,000 dollars off tiny ass clips and he doesn't expect you to make more than that off something 20 times in length???
03 October 2005, 03:07 UTC#213
DID U GET THE JOKE ASSHOLE? IT WAS FUNNY....no it wasnt...im stupid...shut up
03 October 2005, 03:09 UTC#214
no your funny......... just not real funny
03 October 2005, 03:17 UTC#215
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I did all production on the previous dvds I've made, invested money into them as well. they were distributed in retail stores, nationwide.
How can a co-producer do all the production? And you may have invested some money but at the end of the day you didnt coin them.
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they all made it to major retail outlets nationwide. a few are still out there in distribution but several are no longer in print. this was all about 4 years ago.
What major retailers? And all of them? I think you're full of shit.
03 October 2005, 03:36 UTC#216
All of them were at one time released nationwide, this was 4 years ago. Some are no longer in stores, some are still in stores.
Just briefly looking at bestbuy.com I was able to find some of my productions on available on their website. I also searched for your Pickled Eggs DVD on the best buy website but unfortunately for you it was nowhere to be found. Image file not present in the recovered backup
03 October 2005, 03:40 UTC#217
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Just briefly looking at bestbuy.com I was able to find some of my productions on available on their website. I also searched for your Pickled Eggs DVD on the best buy website but unfortunately for you it was nowhere to be found.
Holy shit? Are you serious?
Maybe that has something to do with the fact I havent released it in the states yet as I have to get it converted to NTSC. Fuck Moody, thanks for finding that out for me.
Again, yeah cool, they're on the bestbuy website.. But list the major retailers that were stocking (on shelves) all your productions nationwide. You're full of shit.
From what Ive heard they are all 2nd rate productions anyway.. Even you admit that. I really doubt Best Buy had all your titles on their shelves nationwide dude.
03 October 2005, 03:53 UTC#218
Yup, they were nationwide on the shelves. And for you to even question me and what I have done, when you haven't even had your production transferred to ntsc is laughable at best.
My last production is getting released soon in your country, possibly even into theatres over there, and the distributor has already told me that if it gets released into theatres that I'll be on australia's tv show version of jay leno (I forget the guy's name). anyways, I'll let you know when im on tv over there and I'll make sure to give you a one finger salute to just let you know that I love you.
03 October 2005, 03:58 UTC#219
lol rove is a shitcunt, and no where near the equivilent of leno
and what production is possibly gonna be released here in cinemas ?
03 October 2005, 03:59 UTC#220
now come on......can I laugh cause that was funny, actually I was telling my number 2 about moody and he was like "wait moody who" and I'm like micheal moody and he was all "dude I've heard about that guy howard stern was talking about him on his show" and I thought it was pretty sweet cause it gave him credibility from some members of my group
03 October 2005, 04:01 UTC#221
QUOTE(robism @ Oct 2 2005, 07:58 PM)
lol rove is a shitcunt, and no where near the equivilent of leno
and what production is possibly gonna be released here in cinemas ?
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101 Reasons Not To Be A Pro Wrestler. If it gets released though it will only be in about 20-30 cinemas. So not a mass release.
03 October 2005, 04:03 UTC#222
was it released in cinemas in the US too or only on dvd, and if dvd, where was it released or was it sold only on your site ?
03 October 2005, 04:05 UTC#223
QUOTE(Hollymood Entertainment @ Oct 3 2005, 01:53 PM)
Yup, they were nationwide on the shelves. And for you to even question me and what I have done, when you haven't even had your production transferred to ntsc is laughable at best.
My last production is getting released soon in your country, possibly even into theatres over there, and the distributor has already told me that if it gets released into theatres that I'll be on australia's tv show version of jay leno (I forget the guy's name). anyways, I'll let you know when im on tv over there and I'll make sure to give you a one finger salute to just let you know that I love you.
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Fuck Moody.. Im impressed. 10 titles that made it to all the major retailers across the country and on the shelves! Thats huge. Pity you were only the co-producer and even so, I still think you're full of shit and couldnt provide any evidence if asked.
What production is getting released into theatres here? Good luck.. Its a pretty commercial market here. And Rove sucks dude.
03 October 2005, 04:10 UTC#224
QUOTE(robism @ Oct 2 2005, 08:03 PM)
was it released in cinemas in the US too or only on dvd, and if dvd, where was it released or was it sold only on your site ?
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not in cinemas in the usa. it's getting distributed soon into the stores, just waiting to finalize the right deal. I've grown to be very selective over which distributors I work with because a lot of them are shady and full of shit. the dvd has made over $20,000 revenue selling through my website and 3 other wrestling websites, which is a nice chunk of money for not having signed 1 distribution deal yet. unfortunately, most of the revenue has been invested into for my new productions, equipment, etc.
03 October 2005, 04:18 UTC#225
So Moody.. You said you'd put your money where your mouth is.
How much can you garuntee a group in the first quarter for a 2 min clip?
03 October 2005, 04:22 UTC#226
It really depends on the quality of the clip. Just going based off numbers that I have seen, I expect between $1,000 to $2,500 for the first quarter. I'm not going to write that I garuantee that because if the clip isn't hot, then the clip won't make that. I really only want to work with 10 groups or so at most. I have too much other content to focus on.
03 October 2005, 04:27 UTC#227
So you're saying that at least one 2min homegrown clip alone will make at least 1000USD in the first 3 months? Is that what you're saying?
And what if it doesnt?
03 October 2005, 04:30 UTC#228
QUOTE(ELLIOT @ Oct 2 2005, 08:27 PM)
So you're saying that at least one 2min homegrown clip alone will make at least 1000USD in the first 3 months? Is that what you're saying?
And what if it doesnt?
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Yes that is what I'm saying. If it doesn't, the clip was either not that great or it will have come pretty damn close to making that amount.
This all comes down to the kind of deals and the companies I'm working with. It sounds like you're working through a middle man based on the revenue you're making. I'm working straight with the sources and my lawyer has this industry in his pocket because he knows all the company owners.
03 October 2005, 04:35 UTC#229
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If it doesn't, the clip was either not that great
You're starting to back away from that "Groups who sign this will definately make 10,000" statement a few pages back. HAHA
If you make a group over 5000USD before the years out I will leave HGF for good and write a post on here apologising for how wrong I was.
It shouldnt be too hard.. All you need is 5 good clips. What do you say?
And If you dont make that figure what are you going to put on the table?
03 October 2005, 04:39 UTC#230
what I dont get is if the clip "isn't that great", why is it getting sold, surely you will only want top notch material considering this is such a big deal and the amount you are being paid, there not gonna accept any old crap are they?
03 October 2005, 04:43 UTC#231
QUOTE(Belly @ Oct 2 2005, 11:39 PM)
what I dont get is if the clip "isn't that great", why is it getting sold, surely you will only want top notch material considering this is such a big deal and the amount you are being paid, there not gonna accept any old crap are they?
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Nice point belly, now over to moody with the response......
03 October 2005, 04:43 UTC#232
QUOTE(The Arkhitekt @ Oct 3 2005, 04:43 AM)
QUOTE(Belly @ Oct 2 2005, 11:39 PM)
what I dont get is if the clip "isn't that great", why is it getting sold, surely you will only want top notch material considering this is such a big deal and the amount you are being paid, there not gonna accept any old crap are they?
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Nice point belly, now over to moody with the response......
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lol, homegrown cross fire
03 October 2005, 04:44 UTC#233
QUOTE(The Arkhitekt @ Oct 3 2005, 04:43 AM)
QUOTE(Belly @ Oct 2 2005, 11:39 PM)
what I dont get is if the clip "isn't that great", why is it getting sold, surely you will only want top notch material considering this is such a big deal and the amount you are being paid, there not gonna accept any old crap are they?
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Nice point belly, now over to moody with the response......
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why thank you, thank you very much
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QUOTE(Belly @ Oct 2 2005, 08:39 PM)
what I dont get is if the clip "isn't that great", why is it getting sold, surely you will only want top notch material considering this is such a big deal and the amount you are being paid, there not gonna accept any old crap are they?
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My goal is only to release high quality clips of course. I can have my editors cut the clips as nice as possible with music and maybe some effects if it serves the clip nicely. Ultimately it is up to the consumers to consider what is great. It's my job to produce what I personally feel is great.
03 October 2005, 05:05 UTC#235
But I thought you said that anyone who becomes a part of this will make 10,000? Are you backing away from that now?
03 October 2005, 05:06 UTC#236
QUOTE(Hollymood Entertainment @ Oct 3 2005, 05:02 AM)
My goal is only to release high quality clips of course. I can have my editors cut the clips as nice as possible with music and maybe some effects if it serves the clip nicely. Ultimately it is up to the consumers to consider what is great. It's my job to produce what I personally feel is great.
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yeah but there must be a standard of what they will accept and what they wont, therefore, going by the lowest possible standard of videos that will be accepted what is the minimum that can DEFINATLY be made, I know some will make more, but what can you garuntee 100% as a minimum?
03 October 2005, 05:08 UTC#237
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but what can you garuntee 100% as a minimum?
I think he said $1000 in 3 months per clip. And he said $2500 for a good one.
03 October 2005, 05:12 UTC#238
QUOTE(ELLIOT @ Oct 3 2005, 05:08 AM)
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but what can you garuntee 100% as a minimum?
I think he said $1000 in 3 months per clip. And he said $2500 for a good one.
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nah he said he wouldnt garuntee but he guesses around that amount, but guesses aint worth nothing, I guess I could win the lottery today and make 10 mil, dont mean its gonna happen coz I guessed it
03 October 2005, 05:12 UTC#239
QUOTE(ELLIOT @ Oct 2 2005, 09:05 PM)
But I thought you said that anyone who becomes a part of this will make 10,000? Are you backing away from that now?
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elliot, cut the bullshit. you know exactly what im saying.
03 October 2005, 05:13 UTC#240
Yeah, I know you're full of shit.
