ATTN: HG GROUPS - bonus distribution opportunity

I just got off the phone with my entertainment lawyer. For starters he thinks I'm crazy for offering you guys 30% but I make the decisions, he just gives the advice. He didn't want me putting up numbers for content suppliers like you guys due to the deal being just signed today but here's some information so you know what kind of deal I'm working with.

Plain and simple if you guys want to make quick money then lets work together. I'm putting 30% on the table and investing a lot of money into making this happen. If you have good video and it's a hit with the distribution you could make $10,000 at the least with one 3-5 minute video through me.

Just keep in mind that getting this deal has cost me good money and production costs are not going to be cheap to produce 1,000 videos but if you want to work together I'll make it happen and make you some very nice money.

aww man, if it's like that I totally hear you, if I were you, id send yoru footage to duran or someon who offered to edit it up, I would even do it man, put together a small web release mixup, and people willstart to recodize you

the socal pranks was probably a joke, but I know what it's like to put alot into your shit and get to recodition, you only release dvds and that really limits your audiance and potential fan base, the reason pe and spdst have such a huge fan base like other groups is cause they released alot of web clips

like I said man pm me and we can talk about it

What's the minimum they would make? and over how much time?

Al, you got the wrong thread man.

agreed, you are wiser than I! you are my one saving grace on here, dex too dex is cool, but I can always rely on you to be honest with me! bottom line is that when I came into it I was already getting a good deal so how the fuck was I to know, I think that 15% is a good fucking deal though cause I understand that moody and elliot have alot of work to do, so what the fuck who cares I'm getting 30% now so fuck it! hahhaa anyway if anyone tried fucking me over I'm not the kind of pussy to lay it down I have address's bitches!! hahaha if I don't get my money that mafia shit just isn't a catchy name! I trust moody though and I hope that everyone will just ease the fuck up off eachother sometimes, I just can't take it sometimes and it makes me snap!

minimum numbers are hard to say, really depends on the clip and how successful it is. it can make you a thousand dollars or it can make you a lot more. bottom line is I'm handling all the business ends, the contracts, the legal fees, the editors, the equipment, its a fairly large project to operate, especially when I need to deliver 1,000 of these videos.

I'm not asking you guys to go out and shoot footage, I just want to work with footage that is already recorded that you own. I would like to make a minimum of 5 to 20 clips for each group on here that has quality footage and get it distributed. you won't need to be concerned about having money to buy cameras in the future.

amen

This I like to hear. What kind of clips you want? Pain/crashes, skits, good skating, weird/funny shit?

and for length, could it just be one short clip (many of them)? 10 seconds or so?

im looking for everything you listed but I don't need skits. skits won't cell through this distribution method.

yes, it can be many short clips. my editors will edit them all together into videos that vary from 1 minute long to 5 minutes long at the most.

if this works out the way I see it can work out I'll buy every group in here that submits footage a nice 3 ccd camera on top of the 30% but it will take several months to get to that point.

Damn, for a new camera I'm definitley interested. I'll talk to my friends about it. The reason I asked about length and single clips is all our pre edited stuff has copyrighted music in the background.

that's not a problem I would remove all the music and add new music.

Sounds good, I'll start collecting some clips.

maybe I'll just quit and hire some skateboarders in my place

Thanks Wilbur. The goal here is to make as many quality videos as possible that range from 1-5 minutes in length so send as much as you possibly can. The more footage sent for this mobile distribution, the more videos I can make for a group, the more videos made for each group the more money made for each group.

skateboarding footage isn't quite as marketable as stunts or other footage that floats around this website.

I'm not saying to go out and do stunts, im just saying to send me whatever footage you already have recorded and lets make some big things happen.

Yes I can.. PM me.




Buckwild, I dont really know what you're going on about but when I mentioned "level" I was reffering to the level of mobile video content Im pumping out. ie: How much production time is going in to them. I wasnt really talking about quality of content. Sorry if your wires got crossed but Id never get on my high horse about groups on here man. I dont think I ever have. The more groups coming up through the ranks the better.



Yes



I can be trusted for starters. I will never fuck over a homegrown group because I would ruin the PickledEGGS name by doing so. I love homegrown and try to get the best deal possible for groups. Moody comes in here with shit deals (like you've seen in this thread) trying to rip off groups and only changes to a reasonable deal if hassled non stop.



What the fuck are you on about dude? Why do you think that?



By trade Im a producer. Ive been producing for 3 years, not just PE but Ive worked with big companies and produced heaps of stuff from TV to TV Ads etc. Im producing at a big company in Sydney at the moment fulltime and know the ins and outs of the industry and who to talk to to get shit off the ground. Its an advantage and Im lucky to be in the position Im in.



Your entertainment lawyer obviously doesnt know shit. How much experience has he had with mobile video? It doesnt sound like much.





HAHAHAHA.. Mate, I cant beleive how much shit you talk to these groups to get them on board. Groups, let me tell you now, no content provider in the WORLD will ever make 10,000US for a homegrown video. Moody, you have no idea about mobile video and the market and whoever is telling you those figures obviously doesnt either. That figure is so fucking ridiculous its laughable.



Dude, we're talking mobile video.. If you have to invest that much money in capital you're obviously doing it wrong.

OK, sorry this was such a long post but Ive been working all day and havent had a chance to reply to all the stuff that was written today.

If anyones got any questions about anything post them here or PM me if you want.

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Dude, we're talking mobile video.. If you have to invest that much money in capital you're obviously doing it wrong.
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For starters the reason I had lowered the percentage is because of the amount of money this will all cost me to produce, I'm supplying 1,000 clips. That costs a lot to produce if you want to get it finished in a timely manner. If you were investing the kind of money to get the deals that I'm getting you would understand why I lowered the %. This is no small investment on my part and yes, my lawyer knows the mobile industry well. He represents a lot of major companies that are in the market, which is why we're dealing with a lot of clips and the pay out that he signing me up for is above the standard because of the bulk.

I'm hooking up 30% to the groups now. For just submitting footage that you already have recorded, it can make the groups a lot of easy money.

I WROTE: If you have good video and it's a hit with the distribution you could make $10,000 at the least with one 3-5 minute video through me.

YOU WROTE: HAHAHAHA.. Mate, I cant beleive how much shit you talk to these groups to get them on board. Groups, let me tell you now, no content provider in the WORLD will ever make 10,000US for a homegrown video. Moody, you have no idea about mobile video and the market and whoever is telling you those figures obviously doesnt either. That figure is so fucking ridiculous its laughable.

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Elliot, perhaps that is obviously where the difference is between what you do and what I will do. I have the deals lined up and signed for me by an entertainment lawyer that reps deals for the major companies doing mobile distribution. 1 clip lasting a few minutes can grow that revenue. You obviously don't have the best deals or my lawyer just got me much better mobile distribution than you have. Also since I'm dealing in bulk content deals and courting to the companies they made my deals nicer and they are paying for a hefty chunk of advertising.

Yeah, you talk shit and we all know that if you cant just double the percentage so quickly unless it wouldve been easy to cost it in in the first place.

Bottom Line.

You came in here with a shit deal (again)

Tried to rip off groups (again)

I called you up on your shit deal (again)

You adjust your deal and then make up some bullshit story (again)

Mate, this is getting too repetitive. You seriously take us all for fucking idiots. Havent you learnt by now that you're going to get called up when you try to exploit us?



Im pretty interested to where you think you're going to get 1000 3-5 min clips from as well. Thats a pretty big number dude. You talk up a lot of shit but never really seem to get any results.

haha I just noticed hollyMOOD entertainment... cant get any cornier. and the name moody makes u seem bitchy.

HAHARRHAHAHAA

Get back to me whenever you and your lawyer get off whatever fucking cloud you live on.

3000-5000 minutes is 50-84 hours and thats like 40 loooooong dvd´s. But you havent even got one done Moody. That doesnt sound very realistic? And how would one 3-5 clip make me 10 000 bucks? doesnt sound very realistic either?

Can I just add. That if a content provider (ie: Someone from homegrown) can make 10,000 bucks from one clips, that means that you'll be earning 33,000 a clip! Times that by 1000 clips and holy fuck.

JESUS MOODY, YOU HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO EARN 33 MILLION DOLLARS DUDE! FUCK, INVITE ME TO YOUR NEW PAD IN THE HOLLYWOOD HILLS BRO!

How would you know about my results? Seriously. I have 6 productions in production and near completion, a major cable network is interested in my porn documentary, a divison of warner bros. might distribute all of my dvds or they will be distributed on tv with commercials possibly, I'm in talks to secure distribution for several of my DVDs to be distributed in Japan, 4 other productions waiting to be produced, hollywood movie editors are editing my productions. You don't know my business and that's mainly because I don't come on here ranting about everything I'm working on. So for you to say I don't get results is bullshit.

And you say I came in here with a shit deal. By the sound of things I could offer the groups only 5% and they would make more money with my mobile distribution deals than they would with you. When you are paying in the nieghborhood of $20,000 + to produce all of this material, that is going to effect percentages but if you're going to offer 30% then I'll match it. You don't understand business by the sound of things. You see the small picture and don't understand that a producer investing so much money causes the % to decrease but of course you're just takling shit mainly because it is me and the only thing you do on this board is talk shit to me, you have no other use.

I'm dealing with lots of media, not just homegrown. Some of the footage is being supplied to me by content providers edited already.

Seriously, moody. I want to know, Im talking about submitting my clips to this cool producer guy, but if you make me 10 000....

Wouldnt you give me detailed path how my clip turns in 10 big ones?

First I have to come through on the content, that is the hardest part and takes a lot of time but yes it is possible. Of course you don't just drop a clip, over a period of a year or a couple of years you can make $10,000 off one clip. There is an audience of over a billion cell phone users, it is possible.

And no, I wouldn't invite you Elliot. Image file not present in the recovered backup Sorry.

I dont still see it... you would need footage of 40 dvd´s to get that deal done. If you get something like 10 wrestling dvd´s, 5 homegrown dvd´s, 5 too much for tv dvd´s and 5 some random dvd´s, that would be short for 15 dvd`s... There isnt that much footage in the whole world! Image file not present in the recovered backup

[QUOTE] I have 6 productions in production and near completion, [/QUOTE]

ie: None finished yet.

[QUOTE]a major cable network is interested in my porn documentary,[/QUOTE]
Get back to me when they pick it up. Being interested doesnt mean shit.

[QUOTE]a divison of warner bros. might distribute all of my dvds [/QUOTE]

Might, maybe, shouldve, couldve.. Mate, again, get back to me when the papers are signed.

[QUOTE]with commercials possibly, [/QUOTE]

Possibly? wow.

[QUOTE]I'm in talks to secure distribution [/QUOTE]

Wow, you seem to be in a lot of talks but no one ever picks anything up in the end.

[QUOTE]4 other productions waiting to be produced, [/QUOTE]

Yeah and?

[QUOTE]hollywood movie editors are editing my productions. [/QUOTE]

Mate, you've got some 2nd rate dumbass who slotted together the behind the scenes for LOTT. Big deal.. Wouldnt require much skill.

[QUOTE]So for you to say I don't get results is bullshit. [/QUOTE]

What results have you gotten then? Tell us all. From the shit above all it looks like is that "the next big thing is always around the corner" but never happens. There's a lot of "oh, Im in talks, this is maybe happening etc" but nothing ever does.

[QUOTE]By the sound of things I could offer the groups only 5% and they would make more money with my mobile distribution deals than they would with you. [/QUOTE]

And what factual information do you base that comment on?

[QUOTE]When you are paying in the nieghborhood of $20,000 + to produce all of this material, [/QUOTE]

You're going to dump 20K on mobile video? haha.. Quit while you're ahead.

[QUOTE]You don't understand business by the sound of things. You see the small picture and don't understand that a producer investing so much money causes the % to decrease but of course you're just takling shit mainly because it is me and the only thing you do on this board is talk shit to me, you have no other use.
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HAHA. Mate, you seem to forget that Im the one who's gotten titles on the shelves of major retailers while they basically laugh at yours and tell you to fuck off. Dont talk to me about business. I have morals and ethics and everyone who's been around here and ckf knows that you dont. A zebra cant change his stripes.

Yes, I'd give the information. I'm heading off to bed but I can write it up this weekend or on Monday. Tomorrow is a very busy day for me.

For a long story short though, I present the video clips to my lawyer and he delivers it to the distribution companies, mainly asia where the cell phone audience is off the charts in terms of amount of cell phone users. As I wrote before in this thread, China alone has 440 million cell phone users. They pay $0.10 a video clip or more, depending on the clip quality, length, etc. Not every clip will be a big hit but with the right content and good material, a clip can achieve this revenue.

I've seen the numbers, payments and some of the books of the companies I'm dealing with. It's the real deal.

I doubted elliot for a while but now I see the light.