Homegrown Tv.

I mentioned about half a year ago somewhere on HGF that I was going to try to revive Homegrown or at-least help the groups out. Now I know alot of groups dont film anymore, which is understandable as who wants to put their life in danger for no real return. But I want to try and get you guys a return on your footage, whether its just old footage you have or new footage etc. I would like to get to a position that HG groups are receiving both recognition and money from their footage, without being portrayed in a bad light or have bullshit voice over artists and websites lie about who you are and how the 'footage' came about. (Anyone who has sold clips to tv shows will know what I mean)


So anyway I have devised a plan to make this happen, and believe that with your guys support it will.


When trying to get the Chrissie and Dex show underwritten by GoDaddy, I also pitched them the idea of 'Homegrown tv'. Quite simply a weekly show with a presenter showing homegrown clips and so on.

Now unfortunately due to the economy, neither show has been underwritten, but they have offered me discount codes to put into the shows to generate abit of revenue if I so wish to carry on and make them.

Well Chrissie and Dex SHow is out of the equation, as it cant be made without money to cover production costs, as the revenue made from discount codes isnt great so I would end up loosing money.

I also decided to bury the idea of HGTV as my hopes were to have money to actually hire a proper presenter and pay individual groups for exclusive clips. And of-course without money, this isnt possible.

But I have come up with a different approach to this, which I think could greatly benefit HG groups and potentially earn them some money.

The plan would be to bring out a weekly show (HGTV) which would be put on both youtube and Mevio. As some of you know I have contacts at Mevio and therefore know that every new episode would be featured on the daily home page video which recieves over half a millions hits a day, so it will be seen by alot of people and companies.

Then depending on the response it gets, which I'm hoping would be positive. Build up a fan base and hopefully within 8 months of the show running I would reformat the material that was shown so far, and film a presenter properly with a budget (id have to self fund this) to develop a broadcast pilot to present to tv channels, to try to get a tv show either commissioned or licensed, and obviously use the strength and viewing figures from the webisodes to help achieve this.

Up until recently this wasn't very possible. But I now know several commissioning editors and a few people that own different sky channels, and am very confident that I can get the pilot in front them. You might be asking, 'why not just do the tv pilot now instead of doing the web series first' and the very simple answer is that they need to believe that the product can be made to a high quality and that people will watch it. I believe making the webisodes is the best way to do that, as I know how difficult it is to get any show commissioned these days.

If a tv show was made, there would also be the opportunity for it to also come out of dvd and generate more revenue from that. Obviously I cant say what channel it would be or what kind of deal could be got, but either way I would aim for it to be licensed and broadcast internationally and not just in the UK.

Sorry about the length of what I'm writing, just trying to explain in as much detail as possible and be as upfront and honest as I can, because assholes like Moody have come here talking shit and promising things they cant live up to.

So heres the dealio. Theres no money in the webisodes, but if they are good, they will be viewed by millions and you guys will have your websites and group names plugged for each individual clip, so you might end up having other tv shows contact you to purchase clips etc.

This goes for me aswell. I wont earn any money from the webisodes, I will probably loose money. I will include these discount codes, and hope that within 5 months they start to cover the cost of me making the episodes, but odds are I wont financially gain from it in the slightest as I will have to basically make the whole show myself to keep costs low, and for everyday I work on this I loose out on making money working on something else.

But If the webisodes are successful there is money to be made in the tv shows. Obviously I would pay you guys for your footage, and would probably have a featured stunt group in every show where you guys are interviewed and so on. I'm not going to lie to you and say theres loads of money in tv shows, because that is a common misconception, but there is money and I will aim to get you guys as much as is possible.

So I need to know who out of you are interested? I would like to start developing the webisodes and collecting footage, for the first episode to be released around september time, but need to be sure that I have enough groups behind me to give me footage or its just a waist of my time etc.

Like I said, I wont be able to pay you for clips, so save any unreleased exclusive shit for tv shows etc, but I just need clips that you guys have released before, or that are on other websites etc But they do have to be good stand alone clips. I'm happy to show also show mixups, trailers for your own dvds or pretty much anything you guys want to show, aslong as its entertaining and HG related. But the main thing is stand alone stunts around a 30-60 seconds long, with a build up, and the aftermath/reaction.

Whether you guys do or dont film anymore, it's time to step up our game and not waste all the hours weve spent filming footage. We need to put our footage to good use and make some fucking money out of it. And if enough people are up for it, and stand behind me in this project, I promise it will lead to something.

Let me know what you guys think, and if you have any questions.

Email address to email clips to is [email address redacted]. As high quality as possible and preferably 16:9 but it doesnt matter too much. Cant except wmv. Has to be avi or mov etc.

Cheers guys.

Whens the deadline for first episode? , and pretty much everything we filmed up until now is up for grabs, we are starting 100% new footy for our dvd. And I love the fact you sound excited, and I would love to generate more views/hits from this. And hopefully this will me a following trend, I don't expect money and do not want any from you. Exposure and a broadening is enough for me. But will except from tv show offers ofcourse

I'm fairly certain Tom would be interested in this? As I'm sure you're aware with in harm's way in progress we're still getting a lot of footage and stuff?

Sounds cool that you are trying. But I kind of doubt that people will be bothered.

So its just stunts? Maybe pranks? But no skits? And not anything too offensive, like homeless woman showing tits?

I have lots of footy that would benefit this project. But to be honest Im pretty busy nowdays and might not have time for this. But never say never. And if this get going the threshold to hop in gets smaller.

Theres no real deadline. I would like to start filming and editing first set of eps mid september. But if that date comes and I dont have a folder with alot of different footage in it, then I'll presume groups arent interested and it's a waste of my time.

But youve got alot of cool footage so the more you can send the better. And the sooner the better aswell, as I know it can take alot of time to actually export and so on, so realize GROUPS WILL SEND ME STUFF HERE AND THERE.

Sorry about caps just then. Also in email include group name and individual group members names ( for whoever is involved in the stunt) and any web url you will want plugged. Also a copy of your groups logo.

Youve got a good attitude Imre, which is really encouraging. Like you said youve got old footage thats already been released so you might aswell get it on this web show and get alot more exposure and recognition, with the goal in the long run to make money from tv show/s.

Sorry for my attitude Im just being negative nelly. It is possible to edit your won segment?

Would be cool if he is up for it.



I know what you mean about people not bothering. Hence this thread. I only need about 6-8 groups really interested, so that I can get the show up and running, as I know once people see it and find out the viewing figures they will want in on it. But the groups that believe in it and send me footage from the start, will ultimately end up benefitting the most. I will make sure of it.

But yeh its not just stunts. Pranks are fine. There will be the odd skit, but only very short, very funny ones would be shown. Nudity is fine, but Ill probably censor it, as it's part of the rule under Mevio's terms and conditions.

Would be really cool to get some footage of you vodey. So if you do get a chance please do!

EDIT: And Vode. Like I said I do want stand alone stunts. So if you have a good stunt, with a bit of a build up and some aftermath or reactions I'd prefer to get that as a whole clip. Your more than welcome to edit it or send to me and Ill edit it. Cant guarantee if someone edits it, I wont slightly change it for whatever reason, but if it's well edited I'd have no reason to. And if a group wants 2-3 minute slot for a mixup of some sort, they are more than welcome to edit it themselves. Although if it doesnt quite cut the mustard I might ask them to make the odd edit change for the benefit of the show etc. Hope this answers your q.

Yeh, you answered iiit. Im not promising anything yet, buut...

It's cool man. I realise it's a pain in the ass to sort this kind of stuff out.

If you find the time. That would be awesome.

Do you still have the raw footage from when UW and HM filmed together Dex? Surely we could use some of that.

didnt read everything but I could prob help with a website or something.

Dont think I have it. DO you?

EDIT: CHeers White Owl. Its cool man, Ill get a website sorted. I can sort out all production, just need content from HGF'ers.

I have some, but some of the better footage such as the fire breathing onto Pat has disappeared.

too much reading, will check this out later.

Is the show gonna have a bunch of individual groups with each having one clip with some build up and so on?

Then each episode they revisit the same characters maybe a new group or w/e.

Thats annoying.



The show will be pretty short and simple. Presenter green screened talking about each clip and building it up and saying abit of info about the group there from etc.

So there will probably be around 5-6 clips a show. Or 3-4 and a mixup.

drew has most of the BLL footage. but I would be excited to start doing stunts again. what exposure I do have comes up in conversation all the time. doing something like this would be a great thing to boost my ego.

Sweet man. Speak to Drew and get him to send me some clips.

rejected is down, we'll even send some footage from our new DVD that has never before seen, do you want us to put all the good footy into the same file ?

Sure. whatever is easiest for you. Obviously I want good footage but if you have anything thats ground breaking and unreleased, I'd hold onto it and save it etc as you might aswell try and get some money for it. If you really dont care, feel free to send it all over!

so all that teasing HGF with the dex/urban meet up and none of you botherd to keep the footage?


should of just released what you filmed back then, now no one gets to see it.....ghay.

We're garanteed a deal, our stuff is that gooood!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Daoad5mDdqY...feature=related


I learned alot from this movie actually.
and this one too for production. Simple vs natural? Simples harder, you know?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTvWZn95mZQ...=PL&index=7

TSE is down just give me time to get tapes back and my hdv cam so I can upload. Three months in jail really fucked shit and my whole life up, so much change in the 10 days I have been out, but glad TSE made it threw it.


And Nick your dick is huge.

sigging this.

would be cooler if they did a one episode a week thing new group each month each group gets 4 episodes.

would be better for each individual group. a clip show is just better for the show it's own self and the creators. If the show focused on a group for an episode or two then moved on to the next group...you see were I'm going with this.

There will definately be scope for featured groups on the show. To be honest it really depends on how committed a group is and how much screen time they want. So as the shows go on, if one group starts editing together alot of mixups and starts filming some stuff exclusive to HGTV, like have some interviews with their group and what not, or contact me about some kind of video interaction between their group and the show itself like 'Get the viewers to set you a stunt challenge' you guys go off and film it etc., then it will be done. I'm happy to stick whatever you guys want up there, and it will be slot on the middle of the 'clip based show' as you cannot provide a weekly show just based on one group a week if you have to rely on each group getting their segment done in time. It's not plausible. So this show will be a clip based show, which would mean it can carry on every week, regardless, but if anyone wants more screen time and want to interact with the audience and plug their group and give some info about the group then they are more than welcome. and it will be put in the show. So like I said right at the start, it will be a short show. Probably contain 5-6 clips, or 2-3 minutes with a mixup/featured section. Or a show could just be all about one group. If you guys want the screen time youve got it basically. One the benefit of having someone from the Homegrown community making a show like this.

was thinking that too. do a intro or outro of a compilation of the episodes groups. And introduce the groupnames like Mortalcombat.
Im serious, with that music. then where it says moortaal coombat. insert fucked up soundbite from that episode.
eh?

I have a pretty large library of entertaining footage, a lot of it is un-seen.

We are also beginning to get back in to filming again now that we have some stuff sorted out so I can back this up with a lot of quality footy hopefully.