02 October 2007, 12:19 UTC#31
There isn't one. Just make sure its PAL that you get.
02 October 2007, 12:34 UTC#32
you sure cause I'm getting alot coming up saying HDR-HC7E, I think it's just cause it's grey.
why PAL? with my cam I have now ive always uploaded footage into NTSC... is that wrong?
02 October 2007, 13:08 UTC#33
PAL, short for Phase Alternating Line, is a colour encoding system used in broadcast television systems in large parts of the world. Other common analogue television systems are SECAM and NTSC.
Those two have lots of differences, from framerate to picture size.
PAL is used in europe, NTSC is used in states (to make it simple). If you are located in Europe I´d suggest you use PAL. E.g. if you make ntsc dvd, it will most likely to show up distorted in european tv´s or european dvd players dont play it or... you get the picture. If you still want to spread your videos to e.g. usa, you can still convert it to ntsc afterwards. But for the filming, editing and other stuff I say you use your areas own standard. (everytime you convert you lower your picture quality and you are more vulnerable for errors).
Difference between HDR-HC7 and HDR-HC7E is that the one with E, is european model. So its most likely films in PAL. There might also be some other differences e.g. in features. In many handycams european models have gotten rid of in plug ins, because it would make it a recorder and recorders have higher taxes than regualr cameras.
In that price range I doubt there is any significant differences between usa and eu models (execpt the pal/ntsc thing), but I´d still check it out.
I know my shit, woot woot!
Oh yeah, fms, check it.
EDIT: have you considered Canon hv20? Thats the one I chose over hc7.
02 October 2007, 14:31 UTC#34
QUOTE(vode @ Oct 2 2007, 02:08 PM) [snapback]440861[/snapback]
PAL, short for Phase Alternating Line, is a colour encoding system used in broadcast television systems in large parts of the world. Other common analogue television systems are SECAM and NTSC.
Those two have lots of differences, from framerate to picture size.
PAL is used in europe, NTSC is used in states (to make it simple). If you are located in Europe I´d suggest you use PAL. E.g. if you make ntsc dvd, it will most likely to show up distorted in european tv´s or european dvd players dont play it or... you get the picture. If you still want to spread your videos to e.g. usa, you can still convert it to ntsc afterwards. But for the filming, editing and other stuff I say you use your areas own standard. (everytime you convert you lower your picture quality and you are more vulnerable for errors).
Difference between HDR-HC7 and HDR-HC7E is that the one with E, is european model. So its most likely films in PAL. There might also be some other differences e.g. in features. In many handycams european models have gotten rid of in plug ins, because it would make it a recorder and recorders have higher taxes than regualr cameras.
In that price range I doubt there is any significant differences between usa and eu models (execpt the pal/ntsc thing), but I´d still check it out.
I know my shit, woot woot!
Oh yeah, fms, check it.
EDIT: have you considered Canon hv20? Thats the one I chose over hc7.
ok thanks for this, I'm gonna go for the HDR-HC7E then and upload in pal from now on
also I swear a group bought the hc1 and a wireless mic? will a wireless mic for this cam?
02 October 2007, 14:34 UTC#35
Sony has a wireless mic and hc7 seven has miniplugin for mics, should be okay.
So no to hv20?
02 October 2007, 14:37 UTC#36
QUOTE(vode @ Oct 2 2007, 03:34 PM) [snapback]440898[/snapback]
Sony has a wireless mic and hc7 seven has miniplugin for mics, should be okay.
So no to hv20?
no I don't think so, I've always liked sony... how come you chose hv20 over hc7 then?
02 October 2007, 14:44 UTC#37
Its cheaper, has better pic quality, analog in, 24 progressive scan, those would be the main reasons. Many reviews have rated it above hc7.
With the money I save, I can buy external mic and videolight for it to make it a great cam. And I´d like analog in so I can convert my old footage to digital.
02 October 2007, 14:58 UTC#38
QUOTE(vode @ Oct 2 2007, 03:44 PM) [snapback]440900[/snapback]
Its cheaper, has better pic quality, analog in, 24 progressive scan, those would be the main reasons. Many reviews have rated it above hc7.
With the money I save, I can buy external mic and videolight for it to make it a great cam. And I´d like analog in so I can convert my old footage to digital.
hmmm, I see. I dunno now, when u say analog in converts your old footage... whats your old footage on hi8?
02 October 2007, 15:03 UTC#39
My old footage is on vhs tapes. But would work for hi8 as well, I think. I dont know what kind of cords there are available.
But there is also cards for computers that can do it too.
02 October 2007, 15:27 UTC#40
im thinking about getting the hv20 now lol
02 October 2007, 20:58 UTC#41
Judas.
02 October 2007, 21:18 UTC#42
QUOTE(cIRca @ Oct 2 2007, 09:58 PM) [snapback]440981[/snapback]
Judas.
can u tell me why I should choose a hc7 over the canon?
02 October 2007, 21:26 UTC#43
Oh yeah please.
02 October 2007, 21:43 UTC#44
Because in my experience Canon products succumb to damage and error messages all too easily. I just think Sony offers a finer product in terms of a lack of faults but yeah if Canon is better then go for that.
02 October 2007, 21:48 UTC#45
Oooh, me and Ben would have lots to say about this (both ungraduates in masters degree of marketing.)
I get three years warranty for the cam, should be good enough.
03 October 2007, 08:06 UTC#46
You'll just sell it for magic beans anyway or fill it with alcohol and have naked finnish drinking games out of the viewfinder.

03 October 2007, 10:07 UTC#47
can both of the cameras hold the same accessories? video light, mic, wireless mic etc?
03 October 2007, 10:51 UTC#48
the HV20 dosnt have a hot or cold shoe as jonb claims
15 October 2007, 04:07 UTC#49
has any one with a hd camera tried buring a dvd yet? caused I asked a guy at a camer store about the cameras and he said if you get a hd camer you need a hd dvd burner for it to keep the quality
15 October 2007, 04:31 UTC#50
I think u do.
hey u still want that sample vid flynn?
15 October 2007, 07:37 UTC#51
Has anyone had any past experience using the MKE 300 Sennheiser mic?
I need to know how I can attach it to my HC7 because it doesn't have a hotshoe. >_<
15 October 2007, 11:11 UTC#52
QUOTE(ADV_Flynn @ Oct 15 2007, 05:07 AM) [snapback]443580[/snapback]
has any one with a hd camera tried buring a dvd yet? caused I asked a guy at a camer store about the cameras and he said if you get a hd camer you need a hd dvd burner for it to keep the quality
yeah you need hd everything, hdmi socket in the back of your computer, I think your computer need to have a hd card in it and you need hd editing software and dvd whatever...
QUOTE(cIRca @ Oct 15 2007, 08:37 AM) [snapback]443598[/snapback]
Has anyone had any past experience using the MKE 300 Sennheiser mic?
I need to know how I can attach it to my HC7 because it doesn't have a hotshoe. >_<
what doesn't have a hot shoe?
15 October 2007, 15:43 UTC#53
QUOTE(jonb @ Oct 15 2007, 12:31 AM) [snapback]443586[/snapback]
I think u do.
hey u still want that sample vid flynn?
yeah man
15 October 2007, 16:27 UTC#54
15 October 2007, 18:27 UTC#55
QUOTE(FhatSam @ Oct 15 2007, 01:11 PM) [snapback]443598[/snapback]
QUOTE(cIRca @ Oct 15 2007, 08:37 AM) [snapback]443598[/snapback]
Has anyone had any past experience using the MKE 300 Sennheiser mic?
I need to know how I can attach it to my HC7 because it doesn't have a hotshoe. >_<
what doesn't have a hot shoe?
The mic doesn't. But I've solved the problem with that now.
15 October 2007, 20:15 UTC#56
QUOTE(benCKa @ Oct 15 2007, 05:27 PM) [snapback]443643[/snapback]
vode?
15 October 2007, 20:15 UTC#57
Wilb knows what to do. (after saving to wank bank)

15 October 2007, 20:18 UTC#58
Image file not present in the recovered backup
Come to NYC!
15 October 2007, 22:34 UTC#59
QUOTE(cIRca @ Oct 15 2007, 12:27 PM) [snapback]443657[/snapback]
QUOTE(FhatSam @ Oct 15 2007, 01:11 PM) [snapback]443598[/snapback]
QUOTE(cIRca @ Oct 15 2007, 08:37 AM) [snapback]443598[/snapback]
Has anyone had any past experience using the MKE 300 Sennheiser mic?
I need to know how I can attach it to my HC7 because it doesn't have a hotshoe. >_<
what doesn't have a hot shoe?
The mic doesn't. But I've solved the problem with that now.
tell me how that mic works for you, I want one for my HC3 if it works.
EDIT: I think the hc3 might be to small, anyone no how to raise the mic up a biit so it wonk be in the picture?
16 October 2007, 02:41 UTC#60
does it need to be right in the hot shoe?