Moody's Bumper Thread O' Lies

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When I posted those links earlier, I wasn't trying to put you down Moody.. I was just concerned for HGF's sake and yours. Sure, I haven't known either of you for very long.. but I do know this business VERY well and I'm always looking out for the good of this business.

It took me about 2 minutes to find that SoCal wrestling forum and all I did was google "Michael Moody"..

If a big name company decideds to research your work.. they too will come across the same results I did and that could effect your chances of scoring a big business deal. Like I said before "Always stay positive" and that goes for everything.. not just your own success, but for the success of others as well.

Fighing back with Elliot, NMV, or anyone else in HGF isn't going to help this situation get any better.. If you really want to prove success to HGF, just show them results. (example: Sales updates, DVD articles, outside reviews, special offers, # of copies pressed, ect)

Sure, everyone will hammer you with questions.. but do your best to answer them without negative answers. I know some of the questions may get on your nerves, but you've got to do your best to stay positive.. if you don't know something.. just say, "I don't know yet, but I'll look into it." and leave it at that.

Again, I'm just looking out for you and HGF. I'm not taking sides.

These are the quetions I asked on MAY 26th.



Rico repeated these and wanted an answer. Moody said he would respond when he woke up as he was going to bed. By ignoring these questions by someone who contributed content to this DVD is nothing more than spitting in the face of everyone who submitted content. Its the height of arrogance and disrespect.

The groups have a RIGHT to know whats the situation was with this DVD because the content was obviously aquirred by false pretences.

I just cant beleive Moody can patronise the people who made this DVD because they want answers to questions.

Moody. ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTIONS YOU LYING PIECE OF SHIT.

Who the celebrity?

Where'd you get that from?

haha, amazing sales? Didnt Moody just admit the groups wont be getting much money in a month? Doesnt sound too amazing to me.

Explain yourself Moody.

Are the groups still getting paid next month?

Nah.

That was from http://www.impactwrestling.com/Content.aspx?ID=7258

Cool thanks.

I can't say yet. the deal isn't signed on paper but its pretty much verbally a done deal. by next week the deal should be hammered out. Then I'll let you know who the celebrity is. But to be honest, even if I have the deal signed on paper, I'm going to have to keep this one quiet for awhile I feel for MANY reasons and it will all make sense to you soon enough. Most importantly though, I need more footage for The Homegrown Collection volume 2, so I hope some more groups choose to be involved.



groups are being paid in early July. Only a few hundred DVDs were sold, many at 14.99 with the New Jack Combo Package on ebay. 30% split amongst the groups isn't going to make anybody rich but it will give you guys some side money. the next quarterly payment out to the group will be much better than these checks because it looks like most of the distribution deals will be in effect in the next 3-4 months.

For starters, I handle my business the way it should be handled. If I was doing something wrong, I wouldn't be able to do what I do. Now when I deal with constantly immature adults and teenagers that think they know the world and can speak down to me, I won't always be positive. That's just me, it's a matter of respect, and when none is shown, I show none either.

Big name companies can research my work all they want. The so cal wrestling board is nothing but a board of shit talking morons. They write threads on their main forum about me. I'm not a pro wrestler in southern california, so even though some of them might not like me, they still obviously respect me and what I do and yes, I have tons of eyes watching me. I'm a very public filmmaker that talks to the fans, the customers, anybody that wants to talk about dvds, mma, wrestling, whatever... I go to forums and that publicly invites negative comments towards me. I've been dealing with it for years, it's nothing new to me but thank you for the advice. I control my own success, simple message boards online won't effect my life or the life's of others. My work and the level of interest people have in my dvds speaks for itself.

IF you want to see new sales, dvd articles, new trailers, etc, go to www.HollymoodEntertainment.com

You guys spend to much time complaining to me, 75% of everything you want to see and know is on my website under top stories. I even got Honky Tonk Man to review the New Jack: Hardcore dvd which was really cool, it's on the main page and next I'm going to see if he will write a review for The Homegrown Collection DVD.

If you have specific questions, ask them. In terms of dvds pressed, I pressed 2,000 homegrown collection dvds. I've already sold 1,800 new jack dvds in the same amount of time I pushed about 300-400 homegrown collection dvds (I need to do an exact count). I don't have the time right now to sit down and count the exact time of each group right now because I am way too busy doing about 10 other things at the same time. Why don't one of you guys sit down and just do it really quick? That or you can wait until my editor that handled this production gets back into town because he used avid for the production and I can't get exact times of the groups without an avid computer, so you need to hold on. + you guys really need to stop making this a big issue, because it doesn't even matter right now. just look at the dvd and see how long each groups time is and then figure out who is getting more money than who. So drop the issue because it will be figured out before you guys are paid.

there are new trailers for 101 reasons not to be a pro wrestler, Fightland (very cool trailers), and the promo for The Homegrown Collection was added and 1 other new trailer was put on the website for the hgc dvd.

im releasing I believe 3 new dvds in the next 3-4 weeks so I will be busy, and I hope you guys respect that rather than just sit here talking shit, thinking I've abandoned you. I'm 1 phone call away at all times, im not hard to find. funniest part to me is that the people bitching here are people NOT EVEN in the homegrown collection dvd. all the groups involved in the production know to just be patient and give me time. I'm pretty deep over my head with productions at the moment, free time is minimal and finances are getting stretched thin.

so realize who here is talking shit, chances are it isn't any group involved in the dvd.

www.heDVD.com

watch the new trailers....

cool mang

there is also a combo package now being sold on hedvd.com with the homegrown collection and fightland sold together for $29.99

I have it out there to have something to sell to non-wrestling fans, which is like 99% of the people on the planet and to increase sales. I rather sell 2 dvds at a time than 1 even if I get less $ per dvd.

What? What happened to June 15th?

I dont recall saying anything about june 15. groups will get the checks early july. there's nothing more to it than that.

I thought that's what DanG said. You said you've sold 300-400 copies, what does that mean for a split of cash for us?

And how is split amongst the group? Th emore footage the more money or what?

He sed he sold a few hundred copies. so basically like 250 copies or something.

And the original date was start of june, but it keeps getting pushed back.

I was never the start of june, it was always the end of june. end of june is the end of the first quarter the dvd was released for a full quarter. it was released 7 days before the end of the first quarter of the year but the pay out to each group would have been like $3, so what was the point? that's how I looked at it.



with some simple math, with some dvds selling for $14.99 or less, lets say 300 copies were sold at an average price of $17. That would be a total of $5,100. 30% of that is about $1,700 so I$1,700 will be split amongst the groups. now this is all done without facts, for all I know I might have only sold 200 dvds. so it could be about $1,700 or it could end up being around $1,100 if I'm overestimating, which I might be doing. When I look at the boxes, I have to factor in that some dvds were given to groups, people that helped me, dvd reviews, etc... so it's hard for me to make an accurate guess until I sit down and work out the real numbers. what's above is just an assumption.

Now, that's the type of stuff we like to hear about. Image file not present in the recovered backup

Again.. I wasn't tryin to make things harder on you.. I was just giving you a hand

So each group would get about 120 bucks then roughly?

umm yeah I kinda threw that june 15th out there as I knew it was supposed to be in june so I figured the middle soudned nice and with shipping us all getting it by the end, but yeah if its not to the end of june thats alright with me

I know this is 6 pages old but



damn right it will.

So everyone out there who thinks you're a fucking moron is wrong and you're right? There's plenty of us Moody and most of us have had business dealings with you. What does that say about your business reputation. The only way you can keep getting new business is by lying to people, promising things you cant deliver and hoping they dont know your reputation.



Maybe if you just treated the groups with respect and answered their questions they wouldnt complain. And no, everything is not on your website, no sales figures, group breakups or distribution agreements are listed and unless you're half retarded you'll see thats all the groups want to know about you, not anything about your other shitty little productions.



Umm yeah, It is a big issue. People have a right to know how much to expect to be paid. This shouldve been done months ago. Its a golden rule in business to make sure a partner knows what amount they're receiving at any time so theres no suprises. And I cant beleive you're saying to the groups that they should work out the group breakup themselves. You truly are a fucking idiot. This is pretty much the most important part of how the profits are split and you want to palm it off without even double checking it yourself? Do you have brain damage?


Moody, when are you going to realise that no one gives a fuck about any other shitty DVDs your making, nor do we give a fuck about what spare time you have or your finances. This is irrelevant. People just want to know how much they're getting paid, when they're getting paid and have you to answer the questions when they want them answered.

By the looks of it, each group is only going to get $120 each. Split amongst a few members, each person will probably only get $20 or $30 bucks each. Wow, what a waste of fucking time you were.

And finally to now say "oh, distribution will be happening the next 4 months" haha.. Nice way to buy some more time and keep getting the groups hopes up. Why not just admit that you dont have a distribution deal like you said (lied). And you will be "TRYING" to get one.. Dont say its happening when it hasnt even been signed on you peice of shit.

Fair enough groups giving you a chance for this first one, but after you've handled it any group that decides to deal with this fucking douche bag that lies and exploits the homegrown community on a daily basis has got to be pretty desperate.

elliot, I have your messages blocked and I choose not to read them. now you're probably upset that I'm claiming how much groups will be paid, etc... you always have something to cry about. I feel you would be better off investing your time producing another pickled eggs dvd, because the amount of time you spend here trying to be my personal business planner is a huge waste of your time, life, and everything else that matters to you. I hope you don't have a kid because if you disregard your kid to whine to me ALL THE TIME, you deserve to have your face punched so far down your throat, you'll shit out your own teeth for the next week. don't let me matter to you. groups are getting paid so calm down and move on.

now to the groups on the board, this payment out to the groups is just the beginning of what I hope to have develope into something huge, with a dvd series of numerous different titles released under the homegrown collection brand name, but of course groups will have their own identity with a DVD sub-title. I just really want to brand this as a dvd series, because when this gets into the stores it will be most valuable that way for future releases, etc...

now the next quarter payment is going to be much stronger and much more money for the groups involved. within the next several months, deals will be signed for the homegrown collection to be released on dvd throughout the world and also possibly airing on television throughout the world. I have an agent in europe currently working on the side for me to lock up tv distribution throughout the world for all of my productions, so I'm sure the homegrown collection will get deals and then you also have the store distribution.

also factor in that all footage submitted will be used in the tv show pilot that I'm pitching out soon, so money will be generated from that as well and if the show gets picked up I'll personally be signing groups to contracts.

if you don't trust me by now, I'll never earn your trust. if I've earned your trust, I hope you can trust me with your footage and take a gamble on me and what I'm trying to do. you guys have nothing to lose and niether do I. we can do it all together or you can do it without me.

contact me at [email address redacted]

haha, why should anyone trust you? You've done nothing but constantly lie the whole time this DVD has been in production.

People already took a gamble with you and it looks like it didnt pay off.

Fuck off and leave the homegrown scene forever you leech.

elliot, you are still complaining. go do something positive with your life other than just try to insult me. I'm trying to help out groups and individuals and in the process help develope my company, that is business. stop crying.

You lie so much you forget half of them Moody. lol

Are you saying he is not a forum member? How does he not have that right to talk about his spare time but everyone else does? Granted he need to keep people more updated, but denying him the ability to socialise is moronic, even for you.

OK, correction, apologies moody. no one cares about your spare time but circa.