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08 December 2005, 18:43 UTC#1
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post #2
08 December 2005, 18:43 UTC#2
Moral of the story don't be an idiot in an airport... No sympathy, he has a stupid arab name too so it's even more stupid he did that
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08 December 2005, 18:44 UTC#3
Illness or not, that man deserved to die, what a complete fag.
post #4
08 December 2005, 18:46 UTC#4
looks like someone should of followed the rules. man.
post #5
08 December 2005, 18:53 UTC#5
yes he got what he deserved. kill all retards. this will teach them to not go crazy.
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08 December 2005, 18:55 UTC#6
QUOTE(sam[gomp] @ Dec 8 2005, 07:43 PM)
Moral of the story don't be an idiot in an airport... No sympathy, he has a stupid arab name too so it's even more stupid he did that
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Apparently he was bi-polar. You ever seen someone like that? Very, very violent, and they can't control it. I'm not saying he shouldn't have been shot, by all means if I'm on a plane and someone's running around screaming that they have a bomb, I'll be the first to take them down with a nice shot to the face. But I don't think it's right to call him an idiot and have done with it. There's a lot more to the story than that.
post #7
08 December 2005, 18:58 UTC#7
QUOTE(Rob - DR - @ Dec 8 2005, 06:55 PM)
QUOTE(sam[gomp)
,Dec 8 2005, 07:43 PM]Moral of the story don't be an idiot in an airport... No sympathy, he has a stupid arab name too so it's even more stupid he did that
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Apparently he was bi-polar. You ever seen someone like that? Very, very violent, and they can't control it. I'm not saying he shouldn't have been shot, by all means if I'm on a plane and someone's running around screaming that they have a bomb, I'll be the first to take them down with a nice shot to the face. But I don't think it's right to call him an idiot and have done with it. There's a lot more to the story than that.
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Stop defending the tards, they shouldn't let manic dpressants on a plane, what were they trying to do, think a holiday would cheer him up?
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08 December 2005, 19:00 UTC#8
QUOTE(Joe. @ Dec 8 2005, 07:58 PM)
QUOTE(Rob - DR - @ Dec 8 2005, 06:55 PM)
QUOTE(sam[gomp)
,Dec 8 2005, 07:43 PM]Moral of the story don't be an idiot in an airport... No sympathy, he has a stupid arab name too so it's even more stupid he did that
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Apparently he was bi-polar. You ever seen someone like that? Very, very violent, and they can't control it. I'm not saying he shouldn't have been shot, by all means if I'm on a plane and someone's running around screaming that they have a bomb, I'll be the first to take them down with a nice shot to the face. But I don't think it's right to call him an idiot and have done with it. There's a lot more to the story than that.
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Stop defending the tards, they shouldn't let manic dpressants on a plane, what were they trying to do, think a holiday would cheer him up?
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Go reply to a thread where you know what you're talking about plz. kthnxbi.
post #9
08 December 2005, 19:01 UTC#9
WTf, where did that post not make sense?
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08 December 2005, 19:01 UTC#10
QUOTE(Joe. @ Dec 8 2005, 07:44 PM)
Illness or not, that man deserved to die, what a complete fag.
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He had an illness you twat. Image file not present in the recovered backup No one deserves to die if they have a problem like that.
I think they could of shit him in the leg or something then arrested him.
Just as bad as the London guy who got shot because he ran towards a train that he needed to catch.
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08 December 2005, 19:03 UTC#11
QUOTE(broken silence @ Dec 8 2005, 07:01 PM)
QUOTE(Joe. @ Dec 8 2005, 07:44 PM)
Illness or not, that man deserved to die, what a complete fag.
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He had an illness you twat. Image file not present in the recovered backup No one deserves to die if they have a problem like that.
I think they could of shit him in the leg or something then arrested him.
Just as bad as the London guy who got shot because he ran towards a train that he needed to catch.
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But what if he did have a bomb, a shot in the leg and he could have still let it off, they don't shoot cos they feel like it, its to prevent the bomb going off
post #12
08 December 2005, 19:03 UTC#12
QUOTE(Rob - DR - @ Dec 8 2005, 12:55 PM)
QUOTE(sam[gomp)
,Dec 8 2005, 07:43 PM]Moral of the story don't be an idiot in an airport... No sympathy, he has a stupid arab name too so it's even more stupid he did that
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Apparently he was bi-polar. You ever seen someone like that? Very, very violent, and they can't control it. I'm not saying he shouldn't have been shot, by all means if I'm on a plane and someone's running around screaming that they have a bomb, I'll be the first to take them down with a nice shot to the face. But I don't think it's right to call him an idiot and have done with it. There's a lot more to the story than that.
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I don't think he's an idiot because of his disorder, I think he's an idiot because he didn't take his pills. If your bi-polar and your getting on a plane you have to be an idiot not to take your pills.
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08 December 2005, 19:05 UTC#13
QUOTE(Joe. @ Dec 8 2005, 08:01 PM)
WTf, where did that post not make sense?
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My grandmother was bipolar right up until she died, and my brother had severe depression and tried to kill himself a few times from the age of 13 til 19. Neither were 'tards', it's just both had mental conditions they couldn't help. My gran was especially fucked, she'd attack people at random and just trash rooms for no reason. They're people, they should still be allowed on planes. Just because one makes a bomb threat, you think all should be banned from flying?
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QUOTE(broken silence @ Dec 8 2005, 08:01 PM)
I think they could of shit him in the leg or something then arrested him.
Just as bad as the London guy who got shot because he ran towards a train that he needed to catch.
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Just as bad as the London guy who got shot because he ran towards a train that he needed to catch.
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It's anti-terror custom to make kill-shots when the suspect appears to be putting innocents in the immediate area at risk. The guy was reaching into the bag. If they had shot him in the leg he could have still detonated a bomb. They did the right thing, just in the wrong circumstance.
It wasn't as bad as the Brazillian getting shot, this guy was acting in an EXTREMELY threatening manner.
post #14
08 December 2005, 19:06 UTC#14
Think about what you'd do if you were an air marshal. Man screams he has a bomb on the plane, runs away. If you shoot him in the leg there is the possibility he has a device on him which he could detonate, they didn't have a lot of option especially with all these bombings going on in the world. He didn't deserve to die, purely from his illness, but I don't see the marshals had a lot of choice.
post #15
08 December 2005, 19:06 UTC#15
Im sorry but don't kill anyone that's ill? (edit: to broken silence)
Ok so say if Hitler was ill like that or mentally ill psychotic or something, would you have said no, don't shoot him he's ill let him do what he wants.
If they knew his condition, knew he hadn't taken his medication, then he should not have been allowed near a plane. For the fact that he will act spontaneously and maybe dangerously in a sittuation where safety is paramount.
fair play it could be neglect on his careers case but even so he should have been nowhere near it
Ok so say if Hitler was ill like that or mentally ill psychotic or something, would you have said no, don't shoot him he's ill let him do what he wants.
If they knew his condition, knew he hadn't taken his medication, then he should not have been allowed near a plane. For the fact that he will act spontaneously and maybe dangerously in a sittuation where safety is paramount.
fair play it could be neglect on his careers case but even so he should have been nowhere near it
post #16
08 December 2005, 19:07 UTC#16
joe, I think its best you take Robs advice at GTFO of this thread. LOL.
post #17
08 December 2005, 19:07 UTC#17
QUOTE(Rob - DR - @ Dec 8 2005, 07:05 PM)
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YAY!!, nar man I was only joking, Just think he definatly should have been shot, and there really should have been precatuions for him, like secruity ushering him round knowing his condition, or something, not just acting like a normal passenger.
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08 December 2005, 19:08 UTC#18
QUOTE(WEAK @ Dec 8 2005, 07:07 PM)
joe, I think its best you take Robs advice at GTFO of this thread. LOL.
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Charming
post #19
08 December 2005, 19:10 UTC#19
QUOTE(Rob - DR - @ Dec 8 2005, 07:05 PM)
It wasn't as bad as the Brazillian getting shot, this guy was acting in an EXTREMELY threatening manner.
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dude he ran about on a plane saying he had a bomb... I'd feel pretty threatened.
post #20
08 December 2005, 19:11 UTC#20
QUOTE(Joe. @ Dec 8 2005, 08:07 PM)
QUOTE(Rob - DR - @ Dec 8 2005, 07:05 PM)
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YAY!!, nar man I was only joking, Just think he definatly should have been shot, and there really should have been precatuions for him, like secruity ushering him round knowing his condition, or something, not just acting like a normal passenger.
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Nah would never work. It's not like he has a sign above his head saying "I'm bipolar". Nobody probably would have known a thing if he hadn'tv gone off on one. Hundreds of thousands of people with mental illnesses fly every day, and barely any are actually noticed. The resources needed to allocate each one with a personal security force on every flight would be astounding.
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QUOTE(Rob - DR - @ Dec 8 2005, 07:05 PM)
It wasn't as bad as the Brazillian getting shot, this guy was acting in an EXTREMELY threatening manner.
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dude he ran about on a plane saying he had a bomb... I'd feel pretty threatened.
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post #21
08 December 2005, 19:12 UTC#21
QUOTE(Rob - DR - @ Dec 8 2005, 07:11 PM)
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QUOTE(Rob - DR - @ Dec 8 2005, 07:05 PM)
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YAY!!, nar man I was only joking, Just think he definatly should have been shot, and there really should have been precatuions for him, like secruity ushering him round knowing his condition, or something, not just acting like a normal passenger.
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Nah would never work. It's not like he has a sign above his head saying "I'm bipolar". Nobody probably would have known a thing if he hadn'tv gone off on one. Hundreds of thousands of people with mental illnesses fly every day, and barely any are actually noticed. The resources needed to allocate each one with a personal security force on every flight would be astounding.
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True, but surely it would be worth it to ensure that people wernt put in the same situation as the bi-polar guy was, even if it is rare
post #22
08 December 2005, 19:14 UTC#22
QUOTE(gman @ Dec 8 2005, 07:06 PM)
Think about what you'd do if you were an air marshal. Man screams he has a bomb on the plane, runs away. If you shoot him in the leg there is the possibility he has a device on him which he could detonate, they didn't have a lot of option especially with all these bombings going on in the world. He didn't deserve to die, purely from his illness, but I don't see the marshals had a lot of choice.
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There is always chance he could detonate it before the Marshal could put him down, so why didnt they just shoot him on the plane then. Why would they risk it? If hes running, his back was to them...they couldnt see entirely what he was doing right? Instead they wait till hes off the plane and then shoot him because he reached into his bag? Sounds like bullshit to me. Thats what cops always say to justify their shooting..."he reached into his"...cause no one can prove whether he did or not, except for eye accounts.
I think the marshalls werent prepared and hesitated to shoot him on board, thinking a civillian might get hit.
but then again...were all debating a vauge article in a newspaper...and after reading the article they printed about Webby and his star wars re-enactment, I think we know all how reliable newspapers are....
post #23
08 December 2005, 19:15 UTC#23
QUOTE(Joe. @ Dec 8 2005, 08:12 PM)
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QUOTE(Rob - DR - @ Dec 8 2005, 07:05 PM)
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YAY!!, nar man I was only joking, Just think he definatly should have been shot, and there really should have been precatuions for him, like secruity ushering him round knowing his condition, or something, not just acting like a normal passenger.
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Nah would never work. It's not like he has a sign above his head saying "I'm bipolar". Nobody probably would have known a thing if he hadn'tv gone off on one. Hundreds of thousands of people with mental illnesses fly every day, and barely any are actually noticed. The resources needed to allocate each one with a personal security force on every flight would be astounding.
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True, but surely it would be worth it to ensure that people wernt put in the same situation as the bi-polar guy was, even if it is rare
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Rare or unique? Maybe every Saudi should be given security observation. They've blown up flights more than bipolar people.
post #24
08 December 2005, 19:15 UTC#24
Ah right, I thought you were saying about the brazilian dude being bad and this guy not... I think they're both shit... Just after the tube gets bombed a dude jumps a turnstile and runs towards a train... Now normally I'd say thats fine, but given the circumstances that happened during that time. You'd take the risk of missing your train, just because security is so tight that if you did your gonna get shot. They would have shot a white guy if he jumped over and did the same shit, but cause he's foreign they use his nationality to have a shot back at the government cause they can "never do anything right" to some people.
Both of these people were stupid to do what they had done... I'm sorry man I wasn't aiming it saying that people with mental problems are idiots cause I know that ain't true, but for the fact he went there knowing he didn't take his medicine, his carer or wife, knowing the way he acts and the fact he hadn't were neglectful in leting him do so too...
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Both of these people were stupid to do what they had done... I'm sorry man I wasn't aiming it saying that people with mental problems are idiots cause I know that ain't true, but for the fact he went there knowing he didn't take his medicine, his carer or wife, knowing the way he acts and the fact he hadn't were neglectful in leting him do so too...
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post #25
08 December 2005, 19:18 UTC#25
Well his wife was stupid for not making him take his med. And yeah your right, they didnt really have a choice nut to shoot him dead. Just twat face up there pissed me off with his stupid coments.
Edit: the brazillian didnt Jump the ticket machine.. that was made up by the police. He used a swipe ticket and ran the last 50 yards.
Edit: the brazillian didnt Jump the ticket machine.. that was made up by the police. He used a swipe ticket and ran the last 50 yards.
post #26
08 December 2005, 19:27 UTC#26
The airline should have known that he had a disease... I dont know if they could have checked it somehow. They should check if they could. Whatever the situation I still think the man shouldve informed the ariline of his condition.
So basically it was his own fault, if he would have taken his medication and informed the airline about his condition I doubt he would be dead now.
What if the agent hadnt taken the shot.. Then he would have risked the lifes of the people aboard the plane. So the agents use of lethal force was well justified imo.
But yes it can be very hard for an airline to know if a person has a mental illnes. There are some lacks in information on these kinds of things...
Some people with mental illnesses might not even know it themselves...
So to conclude: It was justified to kill that guy but it was an unfortunate incident.
But was it the airlines responsibility to know if they have a somebody abord that has a mental illness or was it the mentally ill man who should have informed the airline about his condition? Go figure...
So basically it was his own fault, if he would have taken his medication and informed the airline about his condition I doubt he would be dead now.
What if the agent hadnt taken the shot.. Then he would have risked the lifes of the people aboard the plane. So the agents use of lethal force was well justified imo.
But yes it can be very hard for an airline to know if a person has a mental illnes. There are some lacks in information on these kinds of things...
Some people with mental illnesses might not even know it themselves...
So to conclude: It was justified to kill that guy but it was an unfortunate incident.
But was it the airlines responsibility to know if they have a somebody abord that has a mental illness or was it the mentally ill man who should have informed the airline about his condition? Go figure...
post #27
08 December 2005, 19:39 UTC#27
QUOTE(sam[gomp] @ Dec 8 2005, 07:15 PM)
Ah right, I thought you were saying about the brazilian dude being bad and this guy not... I think they're both shit... Just after the tube gets bombed a dude jumps a turnstile and runs towards a train... Now normally I'd say thats fine, but given the circumstances that happened during that time. You'd take the risk of missing your train, just because security is so tight that if you did your gonna get shot. They would have shot a white guy if he jumped over and did the same shit, but cause he's foreign they use his nationality to have a shot back at the government cause they can "never do anything right" to some people.
Both of these people were stupid to do what they had done... I'm sorry man I wasn't aiming it saying that people with mental problems are idiots cause I know that ain't true, but for the fact he went there knowing he didn't take his medicine, his carer or wife, knowing the way he acts and the fact he hadn't were neglectful in leting him do so too...
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Both of these people were stupid to do what they had done... I'm sorry man I wasn't aiming it saying that people with mental problems are idiots cause I know that ain't true, but for the fact he went there knowing he didn't take his medicine, his carer or wife, knowing the way he acts and the fact he hadn't were neglectful in leting him do so too...
They knew what could happen, they took the risk, and they lost out, as bad as it is given the chance you don't take a chance on something so serious Image file not present in the recovered backup
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The reason they shot the brazillian guy was cause he was staying in the same apartment block as one of the attempted suicide bombers and they mistook him as a bomber because he was apparently wearing a big jacket (witnesses say he wasnt) and looked arab. The reason he ran was cause his visa had run out in this country and he thought the police were after him because of that.
Being honest, I'm glad the police shot him. If they hadn't and he was a suicide bomber that blew up the train, it would've been a lot worse.
To that other guy, gutted.
post #28
08 December 2005, 22:27 UTC#28
QUOTE([TNowhere] Kane @ Dec 8 2005, 07:39 PM)
QUOTE(sam[gomp)
,Dec 8 2005, 07:15 PM]Ah right, I thought you were saying about the brazilian dude being bad and this guy not... I think they're both shit... Just after the tube gets bombed a dude jumps a turnstile and runs towards a train... Now normally I'd say thats fine, but given the circumstances that happened during that time. You'd take the risk of missing your train, just because security is so tight that if you did your gonna get shot. They would have shot a white guy if he jumped over and did the same shit, but cause he's foreign they use his nationality to have a shot back at the government cause they can "never do anything right" to some people.
Both of these people were stupid to do what they had done... I'm sorry man I wasn't aiming it saying that people with mental problems are idiots cause I know that ain't true, but for the fact he went there knowing he didn't take his medicine, his carer or wife, knowing the way he acts and the fact he hadn't were neglectful in leting him do so too...
They knew what could happen, they took the risk, and they lost out, as bad as it is given the chance you don't take a chance on something so serious Image file not present in the recovered backup
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Both of these people were stupid to do what they had done... I'm sorry man I wasn't aiming it saying that people with mental problems are idiots cause I know that ain't true, but for the fact he went there knowing he didn't take his medicine, his carer or wife, knowing the way he acts and the fact he hadn't were neglectful in leting him do so too...
They knew what could happen, they took the risk, and they lost out, as bad as it is given the chance you don't take a chance on something so serious Image file not present in the recovered backup
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The reason they shot the brazillian guy was cause he was staying in the same apartment block as one of the attempted suicide bombers and they mistook him as a bomber because he was apparently wearing a big jacket (witnesses say he wasnt) and looked arab. The reason he ran was cause his visa had run out in this country and he thought the police were after him because of that.
Being honest, I'm glad the police shot him. If they hadn't and he was a suicide bomber that blew up the train, it would've been a lot worse.
To that other guy, gutted.
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Did'nt it turn out he diddnt actaully jump hte ternstile though? Just ran along hte platform to get his train.
And in this guys case, its a shame that because of his illness this had to happen. And too the fag tht said people will mental illnesses shouldnt fly and he deserved it and all tht shit, u r a fucking retard and dont desrve to fly and u should die.
post #29
08 December 2005, 23:07 UTC#29
what a fucking dumbass
"I GOTSA BOMB!"
"someone HELP SET UP US THE BOMB"
"JIHAD!'
"I GOTSA BOMB!"
"someone HELP SET UP US THE BOMB"
"JIHAD!'
post #30
08 December 2005, 23:21 UTC#30
Wait...dont they check all the bags before they get on the plane? Wouldn't that air marshal of known that? I don't think anyone can take a fucking bomb ona plane with all that security they have there, bomb sniffing dogs and metal detectors could of seen that before he even got on. I think its bullshit that they killed him. That and because he has an illness.