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post #1
06 April 2009, 04:54 UTC#1
Not sure if anyones keeping up on this. It's sort of a huge fucking issue with the entire world right now so I found it appropriate to make a thread.

World Waits on North Korea Missile Launch
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Guardian: North Korea’s defiant rocket launch tests Barack Obama’s nuclear resolve

North Korea sent tension soaring across Asia yesterday and tested the crisis response of Barack Obama’s two-month-old US presidency when it launched a long-range rocket capable of carrying a nuclear warhead. Pyongyang defied international pressure to cancel the launch.
post #3
06 April 2009, 05:13 UTC#3
Yeah I'm really sure North Korea has advanced weapons and not just old shit we already find obsolete.

This is the same guy that stopped building nuclear reactors in exchange for American Cartoons and other retarded shit.


post #4
06 April 2009, 07:16 UTC#4
yeah, this is a pretty big issue. I Really hope they get punished for this shit. Can't just let em get away with it.
post #5
06 April 2009, 08:12 UTC#5
I think it's funny that America, with the most gigantic military (including nuclear) arsenal the world has ever known, is freaking out that some borderline Third World country is actually firing rockets around: something the US has been doing since the 1950s. Checked the definition of the word "hypocrite" lately? Just the way the article is written makes it sound like they need his permission or something: since when? I wasn't aware that Obama was elected president of the Far East as well.

It's like the American government is some kid on the playground who takes all the footballs and toys and shit, uses them quite happily and then beats up other, smaller kids, for bringing their own toys to school.

Yes, I agree that North Korea might not be entirely reliable when it comes to getting along peacefully with other countries, but the USA should consider its own situation: if it's going to be so against any form of long-range missile program then maybe disabling some of its own vast stockpile would be a good start.
post #6
06 April 2009, 08:19 UTC#6
QUOTE(Liam @ Apr 6 2009, 12:12 AM) [snapback]543355[/snapback]

I think it's funny that America, with the most gigantic military (including nuclear) arsenal the world has ever known, is freaking out that some borderline Third World country is actually firing rockets around: something the US has been doing since the 1950s. Checked the definition of the word "hypocrite" lately? Just the way the article is written makes it sound like they need his permission or something: since when? I wasn't aware that Obama was elected president of the Far East as well.

It's like the American government is some kid on the playground who takes all the footballs and toys and shit, uses them quite happily and then beats up other, smaller kids, for bringing their own toys to school.

Yes, I agree that North Korea might not be entirely reliable when it comes to getting along peacefully with other countries, but the USA should consider its own situation: if it's going to be so against any form of long-range missile program then maybe disabling some of its own vast stockpile would be a good start.


Hey man. Sorry I linked the US's news. Japan had their missle turrets aimed towards the Sea of Japan and North Korea. A lot of countries in Asia were clinching their ass cheeks for a few moments.
post #7
06 April 2009, 11:45 UTC#7
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post #8
06 April 2009, 12:59 UTC#8
NK wont do shit, cause if they do they would be totally fucked. China wouldn't put up with it as there so heavily invested in America at the minute they just storm in and reap havoc just to stop America starting another war.

Maybe soon SK can just be call Korea. :p
post #9
06 April 2009, 17:05 UTC#9
QUOTE(Liam @ Apr 6 2009, 09:12 AM) [snapback]543355[/snapback]

I think it's funny that America, with the most gigantic military (including nuclear) arsenal the world has ever known, is freaking out that some borderline Third World country is actually firing rockets around: something the US has been doing since the 1950s. Checked the definition of the word "hypocrite" lately? Just the way the article is written makes it sound like they need his permission or something: since when? I wasn't aware that Obama was elected president of the Far East as well.

It's like the American government is some kid on the playground who takes all the footballs and toys and shit, uses them quite happily and then beats up other, smaller kids, for bringing their own toys to school.

Yes, I agree that North Korea might not be entirely reliable when it comes to getting along peacefully with other countries, but the USA should consider its own situation: if it's going to be so against any form of long-range missile program then maybe disabling some of its own vast stockpile would be a good start.


If I understand it, long range missile testing is against U.N rules these days, not just what America says. The countries that have missiles such as the U.s, Russia etc won't disarm till the others do so it's pretty much a catch 22 situation. And yeah I agree it is pretty hypocritical but I'd rather North Korea be punished as they really are not a nation I'd want to have nukes capable of starting WW3.

But in saying that, what matt said is true, they won't do shit, they would get fucked big time...they had to rely on Japan and the US to tell them how far the missile actually went as they don't have any radar capable of reaching as far as it travelled haha.
post #10
06 April 2009, 17:09 UTC#10
I just think this whole idea that "the nukes prevent wars by being a deterrent" is ridiculous. If you truly wanted to avoid a global thermonuclear conflict - or indeed, any type of war on an intercontinental scale - you'd just come to an agreement to disarm. Saying that "oh, only certain countries can be trusted with a nuclear arsenal" is fucking insane.
post #11
06 April 2009, 17:19 UTC#11
QUOTE(Liam @ Apr 6 2009, 06:09 PM) [snapback]543463[/snapback]

I just think this whole idea that "the nukes prevent wars by being a deterrent" is ridiculous. If you truly wanted to avoid a global thermonuclear conflict - or indeed, any type of war on an intercontinental scale - you'd just come to an agreement to disarm. Saying that "oh, only certain countries can be trusted with a nuclear arsenal" is fucking insane.


Agree completely, but it's not as easy as just all coming to agreement to disarm, even tho Obama has said he want's a world without nukes, it's never going to happen, even if everyone did come to an agreement you know for sure they would all still keep some somewhere. Like I said it's a catch 22 situation. Ideally, nukes would never have been invented but now they have been they are here to stay. May as well control them the best you can, letting countries like North Korea ,who are not exactly the most stable of countries, build up nukes isn't a good idea. Isn't there still shit loads of nuclear material missing after the soviet union collapsed? As hypocritical as it is, I can't exactly see America falling apart and all control over what nukes they do have lost, I can't say the same for places like N.Korea.
post #12
06 April 2009, 17:24 UTC#12
If we still had Bush we'd totally win this dick waving contest.
post #13
06 April 2009, 17:28 UTC#13
QUOTE(Wilbur @ Apr 6 2009, 06:24 PM) [snapback]543466[/snapback]

If we still had Bush we'd totally win this dick waving contest.


Amazing.
post #14
06 April 2009, 17:39 UTC#14
Maybe I'm just being naive. I simply would have thought that it's in everyone's best interest to avoid war, so a disarmament treaty would make the most sense.

Either that, or make a Metal Gear to shoot down enemy rockets, fuck yeah.
post #15
06 April 2009, 17:47 UTC#15
QUOTE(Liam @ Apr 6 2009, 06:39 PM) [snapback]543471[/snapback]

Maybe I'm just being naive. I simply would have thought that it's in everyone's best interest to avoid war, so a disarmament treaty would make the most sense.



It would be, but nobody would trust anyone else to get rid of theirs so nobody would get rid of their own.

Roll on ww3.
post #16
06 April 2009, 18:01 UTC#16
QUOTE(Liam @ Apr 6 2009, 12:39 PM) [snapback]543471[/snapback]

or make a Metal Gear to shoot down enemy rockets, fuck yeah.


so naive, you need to watch more secret Us citizen tv.

oh wait :rolleyes:
post #17
06 April 2009, 19:08 UTC#17
I completely agree with what skipper said, there;s no way at all that a cease fire or total disarmament would ever work. If it did it would be in a world where there is literally no wrong doing at all and that's just not human nature.

Ideally yeah the best way to prevent war is getting rid of all the weapons all together, however practically matching each other and causing a stalemate is.

Although then the problem is is that if it doesn't work to keep the peace then the world ends, rather than old school war fare happening again in the scenario where there are no weapons...
post #18
06 April 2009, 19:31 UTC#18
Don't get me wrong, I would never expect a total cease fire, I reckon there will always be infantry and mechanised war, I merely think that with the sheer destructive power of nuclear and other missile-based weaponry basically guaranteeing extinction if one is fired - leading to retaliation after retaliation until everything is Fallout 3 - it makes a LOT more sense to all agree to disarm.

But oh yeah, there will always be war on some scale, it's unavoidable. I'm not hoping for some land where they play Kum Bay Yah on the radio and people have forgotten what a gun is. I only think it's illogical that everyone having loads of nuclear weapons in order to "avoid war" is seen as being a better alternative to no nukes at all.
post #19
06 April 2009, 19:36 UTC#19
I'm going to start stocking up on bottle caps and purified water.
post #20
06 April 2009, 19:50 UTC#20
Yeah the way I see it is the way the world is at the moment that's the only practical solution for now haha.

The nukes, not the bottle cap hording.
post #21
06 April 2009, 20:55 UTC#21
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everyone
post #22
07 April 2009, 04:04 UTC#22
QUOTE(Liam @ Apr 6 2009, 02:12 AM) [snapback]543355[/snapback]

I think it's funny that America, with the most gigantic military (including nuclear) arsenal the world has ever known, is freaking out that some borderline Third World country is actually firing rockets around: something the US has been doing since the 1950s. Checked the definition of the word "hypocrite" lately? Just the way the article is written makes it sound like they need his permission or something: since when? I wasn't aware that Obama was elected president of the Far East as well.

It's like the American government is some kid on the playground who takes all the footballs and toys and shit, uses them quite happily and then beats up other, smaller kids, for bringing their own toys to school.

Yes, I agree that North Korea might not be entirely reliable when it comes to getting along peacefully with other countries, but the USA should consider its own situation: if it's going to be so against any form of long-range missile program then maybe disabling some of its own vast stockpile would be a good start.


I thought you were intelligent, you realize your comparing the U.S.A. to a communist nation right?
America goes out of it's way to be politically correct all the time, this will be no different. Especially with black ass Obama as emperor supreme.
post #23
07 April 2009, 05:30 UTC#23
QUOTE(Kerplunk. @ Apr 7 2009, 05:04 AM) [snapback]543545[/snapback]

QUOTE(Liam @ Apr 6 2009, 02:12 AM) [snapback]543355[/snapback]

I think it's funny that America, with the most gigantic military (including nuclear) arsenal the world has ever known, is freaking out that some borderline Third World country is actually firing rockets around: something the US has been doing since the 1950s. Checked the definition of the word "hypocrite" lately? Just the way the article is written makes it sound like they need his permission or something: since when? I wasn't aware that Obama was elected president of the Far East as well.

It's like the American government is some kid on the playground who takes all the footballs and toys and shit, uses them quite happily and then beats up other, smaller kids, for bringing their own toys to school.

Yes, I agree that North Korea might not be entirely reliable when it comes to getting along peacefully with other countries, but the USA should consider its own situation: if it's going to be so against any form of long-range missile program then maybe disabling some of its own vast stockpile would be a good start.


I thought you were intelligent, you realize your comparing the U.S.A. to a communist nation right?
America goes out of it's way to be politically correct all the time, this will be no different. Especially with black ass Obama as emperor supreme.

Hahah, what. Image file not present in the recovered backup :blink: :biggrin:
post #24
07 April 2009, 05:56 UTC#24
WE got 11 trillion dollars worth of missals for a damn good reason.

God is on our side.

Britain, for the size country you are you have the second most nuclear missals in the world, so liam needs to calm the fuck down with the accusations. We were taking on Russia's crazy bitch ass while keeping cuba at bay. the only reason were fucking with iraq is cause russia was doing training excersises on the brown people in iraqy desserts and america wanted to help out. then they used our weapons against us.

america rules, when I'm president were gonna make a strong alliance with the fins and give them a bunch of nukes as a present in exchange for yeti.
post #25
07 April 2009, 08:23 UTC#25
QUOTE(Funk Master Steven @ Apr 7 2009, 06:56 AM) [snapback]543549[/snapback]

WE got 11 trillion dollars worth of missals for a damn good reason.

God is on our side.

See, you say that like it's an ironic joke, but the thing is people actually believe that: some countries are justified in nothing less than holding the fate of humanity in their hands, then jump at the chance to tear apart other countries for wanting the exact same powers. The Bush administration would have used your exact words if they got the chance, hell, I would put money on the fact that ol' Dubya was thinking about that as he dozed off to sleep every night.

And I'm not saying that Britain and other countries are any different, but from the way the article was written you have to admit it's all "Obama Obama Obama". I have a problem with the hypocritical way countries like America (and others to a far lesser extent) stock WMDs then go to war to stop other nations from doing the same.

I know my opinion isn't going to change things, but saying "we're the heroes, they're the bad guys" just isn't going to cut it for me.
post #26
07 April 2009, 12:16 UTC#26
FINFILTRATE DESTRAY REBUIDL
post #27
07 April 2009, 15:04 UTC#27
Liam chill, the good guys go the weapons it's all good.
post #28
07 April 2009, 15:06 UTC#28
QUOTE(benCKa @ Apr 7 2009, 01:16 PM) [snapback]543569[/snapback]

FINFILTRATE DESTRAY REBUIDL


:wub:
post #29
08 April 2009, 02:36 UTC#29
QUOTE(Liam @ Apr 7 2009, 12:23 AM) [snapback]543557[/snapback]

QUOTE(Funk Master Steven @ Apr 7 2009, 06:56 AM) [snapback]543549[/snapback]

WE got 11 trillion dollars worth of missals for a damn good reason.

God is on our side.

See, you say that like it's an ironic joke, but the thing is people actually believe that: some countries are justified in nothing less than holding the fate of humanity in their hands, then jump at the chance to tear apart other countries for wanting the exact same powers. The Bush administration would have used your exact words if they got the chance, hell, I would put money on the fact that ol' Dubya was thinking about that as he dozed off to sleep every night.

And I'm not saying that Britain and other countries are any different, but from the way the article was written you have to admit it's all "Obama Obama Obama". I have a problem with the hypocritical way countries like America (and others to a far lesser extent) stock WMDs then go to war to stop other nations from doing the same.

I know my opinion isn't going to change things, but saying "we're the heroes, they're the bad guys" just isn't going to cut it for me.


You do forget that the majority of us here do not agree with our government buddy. We have to deal with the shit daily.

W was a joke. Period. I think he should have been made to serve another term, and fix the shit he fucked up. Instead he got the presidency as a graduation gift, fucked up, then walked away. That's how we roll apparently.
post #30
08 April 2009, 06:47 UTC#30
uh, fuck everyone else no one likes us but who cares because everyone hates the best.

haters, we got yates and we got justin timberlake so suck it negros.