QUOTE(Lamer @ Nov 20 2006, 03:06 PM) [snapback]398146[/snapback]
Charles Darwin believed in god you know.
Charles Darwin lived in a time so far removed from ours that to bring up his personal religious beliefs is irrelevant. His theories form the building blocks for almost every thesis discussing the non-existence of God; whether he was a Christian or not is irrelevant due to the time he lived in. You might as well say he was white; 99% of the scientists of the period were, but fuck it, let's just throw it in there because it bolsters a claim!
QUOTE(Lamer @ Nov 20 2006, 03:06 PM) [snapback]398146[/snapback]
Theres a saying that goes; "A deep study of science eventually forces a belief in god". I can see how this works in my own life, whether or not you do is your problem, just don't be ignorant.
I've heard this phrase, and I don't agree at all. A deep study of science demonstrates Quantum, evolution and physics. Please explain to me exactly
how this
forces a belief in God. Don't just pepper your posts with phrases that sound good yet don't actually explain anything.
QUOTE(Lamer @ Nov 20 2006, 03:06 PM) [snapback]398146[/snapback]
That, and the idea that religion is a 'hypocrisy' really got on my nerves too...Hypocrisy isn't a condition of religion, it's a condition of humanity; and given that organized religion is pretty much a human-made concept, it is inevitably prone to it, just like everything and everyone else in life. I wonder if accusing others of hypocrisy is hypocritical in itself? There, that's a thought for you to ponder...lol
Lions and tigers and bears, oh my! Got a little deep there, didn't you Princess? Now while you spout your self-involved pretension that could have been ripped from the mouths of any of pseudo-alternative music intellectual circa the early 1990s at many urban colleges and Sonic Youth shows, think about this: while a lot of people may use hypocrisy as a reason not to follow religion, you can't feasibly counter them by pointing out the flaws of the world around us. Your argument smacks of Catholicism and all its self-blaming theology; it's
us the people who have confused God's message. He didn't mean for it to be this way! If we were all better people, we would know for sure if divinity exists! Sorry, won't cut it in any average-level debate anywhere in the world. Fact is, there is no deductive argument for the existence of God. Every time science eliminates a Biblical teaching, it suddenly becomes apparent to every man and his dog that whichever grand scribe penned that particular section didn't mean for it to be interpreted
literally you
sillies. Bah.
QUOTE(Lamer @ Nov 20 2006, 05:29 PM) [snapback]398161[/snapback]
Sure, it's nice to be able to blame everything on religion and single their coruption and contradictions out over others, but it just makes you look like a fuck head when you consider the general scheme of things.
Yet more vague, pointless banter from you. 'In the general scheme of things'? Please elaborate.
And the only one looking like a fuckhead is you, by continuing the great Biblical tradition of murky declarations that could be taken any of 20 ways.
QUOTE(Lamer @ Nov 21 2006, 12:49 AM) [snapback]398286[/snapback]
I did say the evidence currently available was open to interpretation. Fuck, what is wrong with you people?
No, I'm serious now...what IS wrong with you people? Can't you fucking read something in full and just take it for whats its worth?
Can't
you assert your point without announcing that everyone else is either ignorant or a fuckhead? I sense some kind if inferiority complex here that forces you to insult everyone who doesn't agree with you.
QUOTE(Lamer @ Nov 21 2006, 12:49 AM) [snapback]398286[/snapback]
Cheers for that, it's going under my 'comedy' bookmark section.
Amongst other things, the author cites as one of his 'arguments' what can be simplified as the "things get old, without a 'divine mechanic' the Universe would simply fall apart like a 40 year old automobile". This is by far one of the most idiotic and illogical theories I have ever heard.
He cites Sagen, a man who has been widely criticised by many, including professors from NASA, as bluntly ignoring the law of gravity and other such astronomical certainties in his papers.
He attempts to 'prove' the existence of God through demonstrating the Sun and stars use up hydrogen, thereby implying the Universe had a beginning. Congratulations to the author, he has just bypassed the theory of Infinite Regress. Now that he is on an equal footing with Arab theologians hundreds of years ago, perhaps he can possibly assert proof that this beginning was instigated by a divine power?
QUOTE(Lamer @ Nov 21 2006, 12:49 AM) [snapback]398286[/snapback]
Well, you know what? Those people are wrong. And so are you, so just get over it.
And here we are, Ladies and Gents, the stubborn determination that forms the backbone of any die-hard religious scholar! The staunch rejection of any opposition as either biased, mistaken or downright deluded. For someone who so readily accuses others of ignorance, you really fling the insults around, don't you?
Now it's been fun, but you need to stop the aggression. Maybe if you had come in and conveyed your point with a level head and respect for others instead of simply stating 'this is shit', you wouldn't have been met with the reception you got. The only reason myself and others have had to fuck about with you is because you take yourself far too seriously.
Nuh uh.