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post #181
13 April 2006, 03:54 UTC#181
QUOTE(AP Neal @ Apr 13 2006, 03:46 AM) [snapback]315369[/snapback]

Once again, how did they beat us in originality, there was a list of stunts, and there wasnt a lot of variation in the stunts, they added barbed wire to some of theirs, other than that I would say our stunt integrity was better on most stunts, maybe our video was slow or something I dont know but I thought our stunts were pretty original, we shot a guy with a pneumatic nail gun for a peircing for gods sake. how is that not original...

that was a little harsh sorry.


Dude honestly I could care less what he pierced himself with, your talking to a guy who has pierced every part of your body short of cock head.

And I was impressed with your video and I though it was better than No Mercy's but I think they beat you out in originality.

Thats my opinion, I really don't care if you think your stunts were original or not. I have seens loads of fucking homegrown videos, have you seen many of them?

I don't want to speak to soon but you are a relativly new group who just recently started posting more frequently on the forums. Can't say that for all certainty because I was banned.

But dude take your compliments as there given and don't look a gift horse in the mouth.
post #182
13 April 2006, 04:00 UTC#182
k man I didnt ask where or how much you got peirced I am saying that is original, I want to know what was original and what wasnt, so we can work on some of this stuff, like I said before. I am asking so we can make our stuff better.

And yes I have seen a lot of videos on home grown I have been coming to this site for over a year now, I just dont post often.
post #183
13 April 2006, 04:01 UTC#183
QUOTE(AP Neal @ Apr 13 2006, 03:59 AM) [snapback]315381[/snapback]

k man I didnt ask where or how much you got peirced I am saying that is original, I want to know what was original and what wasnt, so we can work on some of this stuff, like I said before. I am asking so we can make our stuff better.


Dude piercing isn't original anymore unless it's some odd place, it dosn't matter what you use. I think it's crazier to nail your arm to a table by your own will then have a friend do it with a nail gun.

And why do you want our opinion on how to make your stuff better? It's your stuff, no group got good asking other people what to do.

This isn't school man, sorry to be harsh but the best groups are the ones that do shit no one think about doing. So us telling you what to do would defeat that purpose.

Only thing I can suggest is this

1.don't throw a hissy fit about negative comments on your vids when you ask for critisim.
2.better video quality, I hope the dvd has better quality because I'm looking forward to it.
post #184
13 April 2006, 04:03 UTC#184
2.better video quality, I hope the dvd has better quality because I'm looking forward to it:

Cool.

also im not hissy fitting, just asking.

u got msn?
post #185
13 April 2006, 04:07 UTC#185
QUOTE(AP Neal @ Apr 13 2006, 04:03 AM) [snapback]315385[/snapback]

2.better video quality, I hope the dvd has better quality because I'm looking forward to it:

Cool.

also im not hissy fitting, just asking.


That may be, but the only advice that I can give is this

Don't take other peoples advice. It's impossible to give advice on originality, they can only help you become another cookie cutter homegrown group.

The only thing Homegrown Forums is good for is news on groups, dvds, videos, and basic tips. The thing that has been killing shit it new groups asking for help, no good group has ever asked for help on how to be original.

Not trying to be an ass, just telling you what I think.

Yeah, [email address redacted]
post #186
13 April 2006, 05:55 UTC#186
Awesome. Thanks Baz LnN.
post #187
13 April 2006, 06:12 UTC#187
QUOTE(AP Neal @ Apr 13 2006, 03:33 AM) [snapback]315364[/snapback]

Just out of curiosity, why did you think that NMV's face-off video was better?

I liked more of the tasks NMV did (ceiling fan, cd stomp, fireworks, light tube nutshot...), but you did some of them better, as I already said.

QUOTE(AP Neal @ Apr 13 2006, 03:33 AM) [snapback]315364[/snapback]

No Mercy did not complete all of the stunts, they did less stunts than we did.

Also that may be one reason too, why I like their video more.
Yours was too(?) long, and you did some weak tasks that NMV didn't (like the backflip).
Maybe faster editing and it would've been much better.
post #188
13 April 2006, 06:37 UTC#188
[quote name='ZekE.XH' date='Apr 13 2006, 06:12 AM' post='315446']
[quote name='AP Neal' post='315364' date='Apr 13 2006, 03:33 AM']
Just out of curiosity, why did you think that NMV's face-off video was better?[/quote]
I liked more of the tasks NMV did (ceiling fan, cd stomp, fireworks, light tube nutshot...), but you did some of them better, as I already said.

Dude are you serious? The nut shot? c'mon, look at it closer, you can see it hit the wall behind him first. The guy didn't even flinch.
post #189
13 April 2006, 07:06 UTC#189
Zeke..you have to be joking....they did that ceiling fan one soooo many times, it got boring after the the third time where trizz started flayling his hands, not to mention the fan was weak as hell it stopped like everytime it hit them. sure they have a better editing program, but they really didn't do anything to wow neone. My opinion obviously.
and the backflip...at least we can do one and tried to do one.

neways NMV thanks for accepting, it was fun.
post #190
13 April 2006, 07:51 UTC#190
QUOTE(AP Corcoran @ Apr 13 2006, 06:37 AM) [snapback]315448[/snapback]

Dude are you serious?


QUOTE(AP MIKE @ Apr 13 2006, 07:06 AM) [snapback]315456[/snapback]

Zeke..you have to be joking...


I don't know why you care so much about my opinion, I'm not one of the judges.
I said I liked more of the NMVs mixup, but maybe you guys should win the face-off 'cos you did clearly more tasks than NMV.
post #191
13 April 2006, 08:17 UTC#191
We were going to keep quiet until all three judges have spoken....but some things were said that I feel I must respond to.


QUOTE
Dude are you serious? The nut shot? c'mon, look at it closer, you can see it hit the wall behind him first. The guy didn't even flinch.


He didnt flinch because, if you were familar with our vids, you would know he is the Balls of Steel....and the lightube hit him in the groin and not the wall...so calm down.




QUOTE(AP MIKE @ Apr 13 2006, 07:06 AM) [snapback]315456[/snapback]

and the backflip...at least we can do one and tried to do one.
neways NMV thanks for accepting, it was fun.


We can backflip, and would have if we could have gotten around to making it awesome.

You complain because we didnt do all the tasks, here is why......

When we put out a video, we like to make sure everything we do is worth watching, we arent gonna do something just for the points.....which is prolly why we have never won a hunt.

Sure, we could have found a small staircase, but that wasnt good enough, We wanted to go down one of the largest stair cases we know, and that was the staircase at universal studios. Due to time and money, we were unable to make it down their, so it didnt happen. Thats one of our downfalls, we try to make every stunt awesome....we get a great idea for it, and sometimes it doesnt get done in time.

So AP, one judge has spoken....and so far you guys are winning...dunno why you guys are making excuses, you should be celebrating....

And baz, thanks for the respect bro, we arent offended by your decision at all. Even though we aint passin any torch to anyone.... we are torch whores.
post #192
13 April 2006, 11:19 UTC#192
I thought that AP's video was great, but I cant get the No Mercy video to work. Can anybody host it some were else?
post #193
13 April 2006, 11:42 UTC#193
I think AP. That was a really good video.

It is too close to call.
post #194
13 April 2006, 13:22 UTC#194
QUOTE(AP MIKE @ Apr 13 2006, 09:06 AM) [snapback]315456[/snapback]

Zeke..you have to be joking....they did that ceiling fan one soooo many times, it got boring after the the third time where trizz started flayling his hands, not to mention the fan was weak as hell it stopped like everytime it hit them. sure they have a better editing program, but they really didn't do anything to wow neone. My opinion obviously.
and the backflip...at least we can do one and tried to do one.

neways NMV thanks for accepting, it was fun.


The general Ap crew are seriously annoying me. I use to hate Lunatiks after the hgf faceoff because they made a fuss when anyone said anything bad about their video or didnt vote for them, but now theyve stoped doing that cos theyve matured as a group.

The fact is theirs people here praising your vids, and yet your still bitching like fucking babies. Do you hear NMV kicking up a huge fuss over every slight insult someone makes? pull your head out your ass and except that some people prefered NMV, and some people didnt like parts of your vid. I dont think you have anything to complain about since lots of people have said how impressed they were with it.

Just keep quiet and wait for the results.

And when I can finally download your vid (my nets being gay) ill let you know what I thought.

Dex.
post #195
13 April 2006, 14:06 UTC#195
QUOTE(DEX @ Apr 13 2006, 08:22 AM) [snapback]315643[/snapback]

QUOTE(AP MIKE @ Apr 13 2006, 09:06 AM) [snapback]315456[/snapback]

Zeke..you have to be joking....they did that ceiling fan one soooo many times, it got boring after the the third time where trizz started flayling his hands, not to mention the fan was weak as hell it stopped like everytime it hit them. sure they have a better editing program, but they really didn't do anything to wow neone. My opinion obviously.
and the backflip...at least we can do one and tried to do one.

neways NMV thanks for accepting, it was fun.


The general Ap crew are seriously annoying me. I use to hate Lunatiks after the hgf faceoff because they made a fuss when anyone said anything bad about their video or didnt vote for them, but now theyve stoped doing that cos theyve matured as a group.

The fact is theirs people here praising your vids, and yet your still bitching like fucking babies. Do you hear NMV kicking up a huge fuss over every slight insult someone makes? pull your head out your ass and except that some people prefered NMV, and some people didnt like parts of your vid. I dont think you have anything to complain about since lots of people have said how impressed they were with it.

Just keep quiet and wait for the results.

And when I can finally download your vid (my nets being gay) ill let you know what I thought.

Dex.


Agreed 100%. guys, SHUT UP
post #196
13 April 2006, 14:39 UTC#196
lol, alrite....
post #197
13 April 2006, 14:41 UTC#197
Sorry boss. (I'm in Ap too)
post #198
13 April 2006, 14:45 UTC#198
QUOTE(BaZ_LnN @ Apr 13 2006, 01:19 AM) [snapback]315291[/snapback]

Here's my verdict, typed up into a review, I will try too keep it small.

Ok, soo, at a glance I thought NMV easily had an advantage with their video, although, after watching AP's a few times over, I picked up on a few things I hadn't even noticed watching it first time around, some tasks where better than I thought.

NMV.
I liked the editing in this, the intro was good, overall nicely layed out video, which made me enjoy it more.

- The CD task was done really well, 3 times, then finally breaking it, you can tell his head really gets forced into the CD, which was good.
- The head too fan task was also great, I never even thought about the barbed wire, which was a good addition, also, the aftermath looked painful too, props.
- The tacks into head was good, also in the ear.. mad props for that, that looked baad.
- The firecracker up the nose was also good, real nice.
- The end would be my favourite part, was really nicely done, funny as hell too, a nice clip too end the video.

Some things like the basketball to head could of gone better, although the barbed wire made up for it.
Also the mouse traps too stomach didn't LOOK like they really made contact, also with the head, but I didn't expect them too be used on the stomach, soo that's cool.

AP.
Overall nice video, didn't like the editing much, but, it's not about the editing, really.

- Task 32 from AP was great, I thought it was just a simple jump, onto lightubes... which ain't a bad stunt anyways, but someone was underneath it.. which made it twice as good, imo. Also, by the looks of it his elbow landed on his head, ouch, nicely done task.
- The mouse traps too fingers was pretty damn sweet, must of hurt like hell, I've never actually had one mouse trap on any of my fingers, so I dunno what it feels like, but I've seen a few before and just one looks like it hurts like hell, good work guys.
- Task 21, this didn't look too good first time round, but it looks too me like a nail gun, and if you look closely, the nail (or whatever) goes right through the skin and shoots out the other end, damn good stuff.
- The car hit looked sick as hell, you can see his ankle get all twisted, kinda, and just fling up, sick.
- The weedwhacker too leg looked nice, nice aftermath too, props.

The video could of gone better, maybe if it was edited a little faster, although, this way you can see which task is which, soo not all bad, all of the stunts where done well, good work, the slam through the table could of gone better, although it was on fire, few tacks, ended up alright.
Also, some of the aftermath looked sweet, like the cut from the tubes.

From what I counted NMV completed 19 tasks and AP completed 27, obviously not including the same tasks done twice.

NMV have always been known as one of the, if not, THE top group in HG. Mad props too them, they always seem too be busting their asses, from their backyard videos too their stunts.

After watching each video several times I think the final vote goes too..................AP.
They stepped up and proved they could hang with NMV.
I thought AP deserved it just that bit more between those two videos, AP's video stood out more too me.

Maybe it's time NMV stepped down, and gave someone else time too shine :D
Although, maybe NMV could of produced a better video than AP on any other given day, but between the videos produced from the faceoff, I think AP's was just that bit better.
My vote goes too AP.

I enjoyed both the videos, both teams busted their assed too produce the best video they could in the time given, props too them both, but I think AP deserve this one. Congrats guys.


I fucking love baz, he knows his shit and he anit even in a good group (sorry but my opininon) anyways hes wrote a review I would have. so I'll just cover the stuff he hasnt or I didnt agree with.

the editing I feel AP was more the style I liked. I loved how NMV did the intro as its somthing I havnt seen before but the way everything was edited I feel they should of cut down there clips at the start n end. also the angles was always basic. so editing goes to AP with its fasterpasced count down.

I also loved the barbed wire fan as we 'retardz' was gunna do it but we had our fan removed from down stars. but the baredwire stoped it from picking up speed. ap's fan was going some speed and looked more painfull...also leroy must of felt it more.

I think what does it for me is AP isnt looked at as a good crew as we've never seen much from them. and no mercy are ledgends. so I think we all expected more from them but they didnt even do all the tasks so AP surprised me alot. I love both videos and im not gunna be biast towards no mercy as they are one of my all time fave groups but I feel AP took the faceoff crown this time. maybe muppets can challenge them now?

all in all both groups got to film some new stunts and got some new hardcore videos out. and thats what really matters if egos of who was better is moved aside.

im fucking ill at the moment with flu so these vids have gave me somthing new to watch...being as I cant go filming now

-webby

p.s. yes spellin sux..im too sick 2 care
post #199
13 April 2006, 14:49 UTC#199
awesome
post #200
13 April 2006, 14:49 UTC#200
Well done to AP.
post #201
13 April 2006, 14:55 UTC#201
Thanks! <3
post #202
13 April 2006, 15:07 UTC#202
whos the last judge?
post #203
13 April 2006, 15:11 UTC#203
QUOTE(AP MIKE @ Apr 13 2006, 10:07 AM) [snapback]315700[/snapback]

whos the last judge?


J0nes from Rip/Off
post #204
13 April 2006, 15:11 UTC#204
j0nes from Rip Off
post #205
13 April 2006, 15:12 UTC#205
Is he online atm? I think she be.
post #206
13 April 2006, 15:14 UTC#206
ok cool, thanks webby
post #207
13 April 2006, 15:18 UTC#207
also props on the hidden shot

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post #208
13 April 2006, 15:20 UTC#208
QUOTE(EVIL-WEBBY @ Apr 13 2006, 03:45 PM) [snapback]315679[/snapback]

I fucking love baz, he knows his shit and he anit even in a good group (sorry but my opininon)

im fucking ill at the moment with flu so these vids have gave me somthing new to watch...being as I cant go filming now

Lol, I would expect, fucking, shit group, but that's great :D Haha, I knows it though.

Also, maybe we will see a new staple video then? :P
post #209
13 April 2006, 15:28 UTC#209
QUOTE(BaZ_LnN @ Apr 13 2006, 04:20 PM) [snapback]315713[/snapback]

QUOTE(EVIL-WEBBY @ Apr 13 2006, 03:45 PM) [snapback]315679[/snapback]

I fucking love baz, he knows his shit and he anit even in a good group (sorry but my opininon)

im fucking ill at the moment with flu so these vids have gave me somthing new to watch...being as I cant go filming now

Lol, I would expect, fucking, shit group, but that's great :D Haha, I knows it though.

Also, maybe we will see a new staple video then? :P


lol I forgot I was ill when I did that. nah just editing for me
post #210
13 April 2006, 16:44 UTC#210
hurry up j0nes.