Kidnapping, protest over cartoons

Hahaha. And who are you to say this man? You just read it and think tahts the truth? so your saying half the people who were chanting when London was blown up are not part of ISLAM? hahaha. Dude you sound like a muslim trying to save his ass.

that's their freedom of speach, their right. Who are we to complain and stop them doing what they want

EDIT: go team muslim. woooo Image file not present in the recovered backup

Exactly. And we dont... But you go over there and craw a pic of this guy... your a dead fucker.

If you don't care about them cheering about it then why are you using it as an excuse to flame them?

and anyways back on topic now, What was the gain in putting that picture out there. What was right about it?

Fan club?! Wtf?

Im not in any fan club, I was just trying to make the point that theres a difference between the 2

And how is it that you just cant stop posting on this, you have a complete and obvious incompeteance on the whole subject, so instead of posting about something you know nothing about just learn that you just make yourself look even more stupid with every word you type

edit: and patty when youre in an discussion about something it is pretty regular to answer to the others argumentation isnt it?

because... They are complaining abouta fucking pic drawn... but we find it ok for them to chear when our own people die for there excuse.

And just because they are in a religion and some say that terrorists have no part in islame we forget it... and were meant to say sorry for printing it in newspapers?

lol. dude I know more then you think about this. I know a whole lot more.

The pic is probably more offensive to them then people cheering about the twin towers getting bombed...

As you said ,being the font of all knowlege about all things ethical and muslim, yourself religion runs their life. If we're to go and ultimaltly ridicule their religion then they have every right to be pissed off and expect an apology, wether u like it or not the people who wrote that article were stupid to have done so. I don't think that people should die over it as the extremists do for obvious reasons but I do feel that the muslim community is deserving of an apology.

So your sayin ga pic is more offensive then 1000s of people dieing? Does taht not show you how fucking stupid these people are and how stupid you are fighting for them in this thread?

EDIT: I am enjoying this btw... I have not had a convo like this since FMS left

so they shouldnt have printed it because its offensive?
so now people shouldnt print anything thats offensive,oh how a happy censored world this will be

you weren't talking about the act you were talking about the cheering and how some of the muslims aren't terrorist. I was as angry as any person about the wanton loss of life during those bombing. And yeah it is a big insult to them as you said, again emphasising your irrefutable knowlege of muslim society and beliefs, religion runs their lives, and to commit a huge obsenity to it is gonna piss people off. It's not like expressing an opinion about it like saying Jesus is an idiot, but it is doing something that they do not do out of respect and then making the matter worse by associating that icon in their religion to terrorists which they feel as much anger too as we do. because ultimatley they are open to it and fall victim to it a lot more than we do...

I wasn't saying don't print offensive things, but that was uncalled for and was guarenteed to piss off 100% of the muslim community guarenteed. When people post anti-christian cartoons im sure a large number of people can complain, but some will not because obviously it's hard to find something that will anger every single person in a religion.

There was just no need for it, maybe an iraqui doing it but the specific reference to mohamed was intentional and uncalled for

Well when you consider that countless billions of people over the years have based their lives on the idea that Muhammad saved them all from eternal damnation and that he bought God into their lives

Then yes, it is far more offensive than 2,740 people dying in an attack by a group of people who use religionas an excuse to hurt people, who infact have very little to do with Islam at all

Hahaha. ohh man... I think these people need to set there values straght then. Lives are much more importent then a damn drawing... no matter who it is.

Edit: also... if someone draws a pic of jesus yeah people will be pissed off... and they have the right to be... But you dont see them taking hostages and doing this crap. People follow jesus as much as muslims follow there faith... Its just we have our values straight as they dont.

Patty doesn't speak on behalf of me, I don't think any people's feeling should be deemed more important or more valuable than anothers. Which is why the hurt feelings of those INNOCENT muslims couldn't give a fuck about the terrorists should not be ignored because a few people from their country or religion chose to act like complete fuckwits. Just like the people who were hurt emotionally and physically from the London bombings should not have been jeered or ignored by the people cheering about it.

Ok just answer this, why should the lifes of innocent muslims that have done nothing to us and nothing to suggest they are terrorists, hate the west or any other stupid stereotypes be ridiculed by people as a result of a small few's actions. who in fact they have already tried to disown and seperate themselves from.




oh my fucking god you were an idiot. I never had anything against you through this but your ignroance is driving me mad. It is not the muslims doing the hostages and "crap" but the millitants extremists and terrorists why should the others suffer?

You make a fair point man. But... Itsa cartoon... and maybe they should not take it to heart. By them wanting people to say sorry I see it as taking freedom of speech away from me. I should be able to insult a religion if I want too and if I think its stupid (Which I do). By them demanding people to say sorry I see it as taking something away from me and my country.

It's in the same way that an old woman would complain seeing nudity on violence on tv. You have your right to think it's fine but they too have the right to be mightily pissed off and expect an apology. And taking it lightly. That's their entire way of like ridiculed and made to look stupid, in their situation I'd be pissed off too because there is no common ground where you can see ah that's acceptable. Many people might be able to understand the link between the bomb and the muslim guy, but either way they still commited something offensive to the muslim community as a whole from whatever way they look at it,. That picture will offend every single muslim out there and the people drawing the cartoon knew that and idioticly chose to carry on publishing it..> Which as u say is their right but it is also the muslim people's right to demand an apology if you look at it like that. Whether they should get the apology is a different matter. I still personally think they should.

I do understand your point man. I am a proud English person and also see my Queen as the only person apart from my family that I feel the need to die for... Sounds stupid to alot of people I know as they see the queen as doing nothing.... But I cant help it its how I feel.

But if someone makes a cartoon pic of her I get what id say ismad... but I just turn the page as it is not my view but the view of someone else and they have that right as do otehrs who read it.

I know its not the same as my hwole life is not run by this but I dont believe in any religion... Nor do I want too. But why should any news paper in my own country have to say sorry to someone for there faith? In england you can now have a faith of "The Force" which is from Star Wars (its true lol) but if I drew a pic of R2D2 fucking Obi one (Can it be done?!) I odnt think tehy would get pissed off too much.

Its my country and here I and everyone else should be able to say and write whatever they want. Even if it offentds peoples ways of life... as not all agree with there way of life... As they dont ours.

I am sure tehy have tehre own booksand newspapers (They do in England) and they print think I and other poeple do not agree with.

What you said was dude was that they shouldn't complain, and they have every right to like. Like you said aswell if someone said shit about the queen... For instance she goes doggy with her corgis, that would piss you off but you have the understanding that that is someone's opinion. Drawing the picture of mohamed was nothing to do with opinion but more something that no one is allowed to do...

To put it in a way that we could sort of comprehend it's like someone putting a picture of kiddy porn in their paper. But then even worse associating that with something worse linked to an undesirable group of your community... I know it's not the same and might sound silly, but you gotta understand how a lot of the muslim community can get pissy and feel they deserve an apology

as I said before whether they should get one is a different matter but they have quite a strong case to demand one and I think it's fair enough, it's a shame the smut that is the terrorist and extremist groups has again brought bad attention to their people. Because the muslim's decided on a day of protest (not a day of raping and pillaging and beheading all westerners) which is quite a peacful way of going about things.

Because of the actions of the terrorists, the stuborn or ill informed could be lead to believe that it is muslims in general that are fucking shit up and that is not the case which is why I supported them in this scenario.

- end - Sam

finally some conversation on this place higher than boob and gay jokes

Not really man. Kiddie porn is real. this mohamed guy is not. yeah he lives ages ago but nothing is proven that what he did was true... But a kid being raped is real and wrong.

Also a kid being raped is a issue for everyone in this world where as this mohamed guy only offents a small portion of the western world... Other countries have no right to say what we do so thewre not included.

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Just because it's a smaller ammount of people does that mean that they don't matter?

Nothing has proven that what he did was'nt true either...

*looking at the videos now*

edit: that just clarifies what I was saying before

"The video originates from a forum that is often used by known terror groups."

not everyday muslims. It's only a small few that are fucking things up for all the others