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Spending up to £2500 on new camera

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post #1
30 September 2005, 23:28 UTC#1
Yup..im willing to spend all my money on this new camera , as soon as we get it im telling you now randumb will improve, ALOT.

We will restart the dvd so its very good quality and we hope you will support us with whatever along the way.

Right...this camera is pretty cool..

cam1

but I also like the canon xl2

cam2


which camera is better out of those 2, and if there is a better camera and around under the price of £2500 please post link here.

Thanks!

ps - I can buy the camera RIGHT NOW if its pay by month, but if its 1 cash sum all together I have to wait 4 weeks.

post #2
01 October 2005, 00:48 UTC#2
those are the shittiest cameras I've ever seen. *sarcastic* What kind of camera do you have right now?
post #3
01 October 2005, 01:01 UTC#3
just a canon mv730i..not good enough for a DVD..
post #4
01 October 2005, 01:58 UTC#4
getting an awesome camera dont make you better at stunts. skits or film making. look at steve-os earlier shit..had shit cameras but great stunts...the quality didnt matter too much
post #5
01 October 2005, 02:03 UTC#5
That's what I was going to say... spending that much on a camera is almost pointless.. sure you might impress 10 people on homegrown forums... but your not going to get famous or anything.
post #6
01 October 2005, 02:13 UTC#6
buy a mini sony for 300. buy props with the resat and if using fire please buy the safety shit...you have the money...we didnt.
post #7
01 October 2005, 02:18 UTC#7
QUOTE(EVIL-WEBBY @ Oct 1 2005, 02:13 AM)
if using fire please buy the safety shit...you have the money...we didnt.
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Common sense cannot be purchased at any price.

BONNNGGGG
post #8
01 October 2005, 02:24 UTC#8
who are you again?
post #9
01 October 2005, 02:57 UTC#9
I agree with webby....just because you have a good camera doesn't mean you are going to be good with it....
and there's not much point in a HD camera because it only works on HD TVs....all others it'll look like an ordinary 3ccd....
go with a basic 3ccd camera and save the rest, or buy equipment like lighting and mics....
post #10
01 October 2005, 03:15 UTC#10
cuuuunttfiuuucks
post #11
01 October 2005, 03:48 UTC#11
QUOTE(robism @ Oct 1 2005, 02:57 AM)
I agree with webby....just because you have a good camera doesn't mean you are going to be good with it....
and there's not much point in a HD camera because it only works on HD TVs....all others it'll look like an ordinary 3ccd....
go with a basic 3ccd camera and save the rest, or buy equipment like lighting and mics....
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Yeah, tottaly agree.
post #12
01 October 2005, 03:57 UTC#12
QUOTE(SkidMarc @ Oct 1 2005, 02:18 AM)
QUOTE(EVIL-WEBBY @ Oct 1 2005, 02:13 AM)
if using fire please buy the safety shit...you have the money...we didnt.
[right][snapback]190319[/snapback][/right]

Common sense cannot be purchased at any price.

BONNNGGGG
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:: now understands why he's on the fag team ::

Anyways Dan, stay away from the Sony HD cam. It would be premature to buy an HD cam when 99% of the population is still using SD televsion sets. You cannot notice HD quality on an SD set. Not sure if that makes sense, but basically...I would hold out. I personally wouldnt even know what to do with a camera like that, and I have alot of experience using broadcast cams.

I cant give any advice in reguards to canons. They are the 1 brand I know little about. All I know is I used an xl2 and I wasnt really impressed.

Here is a tip though. Buy from this site. They're the cheapest site on the web, and they offer NTSC and PAL. You should find what you want from there. I reccomend the vx2100.
post #13
01 October 2005, 04:08 UTC#13
QUOTE(WEAK @ Oct 1 2005, 03:57 AM)
QUOTE(SkidMarc @ Oct 1 2005, 02:18 AM)
QUOTE(EVIL-WEBBY @ Oct 1 2005, 02:13 AM)
if using fire please buy the safety shit...you have the money...we didnt.
[right][snapback]190319[/snapback][/right]

Common sense cannot be purchased at any price.

BONNNGGGG
[right][snapback]190322[/snapback][/right]


:: now understands why he's on the fag team ::

Anyways Dan, stay away from the Sony HD cam. It would be premature to buy an HD cam when 99% of the population is still using SD televsion sets. You cannot notice HD quality on an SD set. Not sure if that makes sense, but basically...I would hold out. I personally wouldnt even know what to do with a camera like that, and I have alot of experience using broadcast cams.

I cant give any advice in reguards to canons. They are the 1 brand I know little about. All I know is I used an xl2 and I wasnt really impressed.

Here is a tip though. Buy from this site. They're the cheapest site on the web, and they offer NTSC and PAL. You should find what you want from there. I reccomend the vx2100.
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posting the link would of helped Image file not present in the recovered backup
post #15
01 October 2005, 04:57 UTC#15
also stay away from the HD cameras because you will need a really powerful pc to edit in HD not to mention most video edditing apps are now just supporting the format. I would have a look at the Panasonic AG-DVX100A.
post #17
01 October 2005, 07:56 UTC#17
QUOTE(EVIL-WEBBY @ Sep 30 2005, 06:13 PM)
buy a mini sony for 300.
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for what you guys are doing, I agree with webby. save your money. mainly you are just showing your videos to your friends. invest in other production supplies. buy 2 inexpensive sony cameras, shoot 2 angles.

when you buy a nice camera like that and it breaks you will be kicking yourself in the ass.
post #18
01 October 2005, 07:56 UTC#18
The second page doesn't work for me, but the second one looks sweet as!

Good luck on the DVD Image file not present in the recovered backup
post #19
01 October 2005, 07:57 UTC#19
QUOTE(dfilm @ Oct 1 2005, 04:57 AM)
also stay away from the HD cameras because you will need a really powerful pc to edit in HD not to mention most video edditing apps are now just supporting the format. I would have a look at the Panasonic AG-DVX100A.
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And now for a related reply

I would definitely get the camera dfilm recommends. It's a heavy duty camera for shooting "real" stuff on digital. A lot of the things you see on TV and on DVDs, etc., like documentaries and behind the scenes stuff, is shot on this model Panasonic cam. Also for an example of a feature being shot with it, I believe Clerks 2 is being shot using DVX100s.

It takes more know-how to use one effectively, but you can pick it up as you go. This cam is worth it just for the "frame movie mode", which takes movies at 24 frames per second instead of 30, making it look a lot more like a "real movie".

edit: I would get the cam dfilm recommends IF you are deadset on getting an expensive cam. if it were me, I'd go with the advice of some of the others who say not to get an expensive cam at all. honestly a ~$300 sony is going to do you right for this kind of thing.
post #20
01 October 2005, 08:51 UTC#20
Omfg webb..and co...stunts from us are going to be alot more h/c, I have some very good stuff that I havent posted YET.

Im getting the new expensive camera, so help me out if you can.

And the dvd, we decided we are going to film it for about 2-3 years when were 18 and put it together then..we had a major talk about it and are deffinitly going for it..
post #21
01 October 2005, 09:09 UTC#21
Dude, seriously....no neeed to get either of thoese 2 cams, such a waste of money, your ganna need a fuck off big hd to imnport in the higest quailty ( I may be wrong but it makes sence) and like others have said most people wont notice the quality.

You seem to have a real high standard of youselfs that I personnaly cannot see...and even if u did have the 'omfg webby and co we are more h/c' stunts coming that you havent posted YET, which I doubt, why is wasting a few grand on a cam ganna make any difference if you have already filmed them?

Bottom line u and most groups (pretty much all) do not need cameras like these.
post #22
01 October 2005, 09:15 UTC#22
Lmao...a £300 cam DVD quality is going to be around the same as a £2500 camera? - what your really trying to say..

Yes I have high standards...

SPDST have nice cameras like this, I know theyre 100x better but we aim to get that much better.
Ive been offered to be tought Avid by a friend from home which is good, but should I just use premiere?

All im saying is, I dont think your gona change my mind, I want to get it, ive saved.
I just wanted your help on finding one.

post #23
01 October 2005, 09:17 UTC#23
QUOTE(EVIL-WEBBY @ Oct 1 2005, 01:58 AM)
getting an awesome camera dont make you better at stunts. skits or film making. look at steve-os earlier shit..had shit cameras but great stunts...the quality didnt matter too much
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yer I think you will be wasting money
post #24
01 October 2005, 09:19 UTC#24
QUOTE(Volume.3 @ Oct 1 2005, 09:17 AM)
QUOTE(EVIL-WEBBY @ Oct 1 2005, 01:58 AM)
getting an awesome camera dont make you better at stunts. skits or film making. look at steve-os earlier shit..had shit cameras but great stunts...the quality didnt matter too much
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yer I think you will be wasting money
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grr stop it ive made up my mind im getting one..
I need help finding one.
post #25
01 October 2005, 09:24 UTC#25
so what if your learning avid...that don't make the content no better...
the pickledeggs dvd was filmed with 1ccd cameras....and look how good that is...you are going for the flash-bang-high-tech shit which isn't necessary for stunts...and premier pro is fine, you don't need avid for what your doing...
save your money kid believe me....your young so why the fuck do you need such a big camera...
post #26
01 October 2005, 09:24 UTC#26
I say props to ya boy. Image file not present in the recovered backup

Spending that much on a cam youre taking a risk. Hope it pays off.

Even though ( as mentioned above ) a better camera dont make you any better at what youse guys do,I think spending that sort of $$$ on a camera, whew, it'd give you one hell of an incentive to get better.
post #27
01 October 2005, 09:26 UTC#27
Well, maybe I could spend £1000-2000 on new cam and spend £500 on new space on my pc?

Ok then, ill give HGF's advice a go, guys link me to the best cameras out there between £500 and £1000
post #28
01 October 2005, 09:27 UTC#28
That would make sense... use all the money you've saved on software and a decent camera and hd space..

I wish I had money... Image file not present in the recovered backup
post #29
01 October 2005, 09:28 UTC#29
Thats a smart idea.

In all honesty, you dont really need a flashy whizz-bang camera. Just one that does the job.
post #30
01 October 2005, 09:43 UTC#30
if someone if offering to teach you AVID go for it. Seriously thats a great skill to have if you plan on being in the TV/FILM industry. The only thing is alot of post production companys are making the move over to Final Cut Pro because it is cheaper and doesnt require custom hardware.