Another death

Some of you guys sound like people on other boards during the webby incident. You were all getting offended that everyone, everywhere else were calling him an idiot and saying he deserved it.

Now a fellow "stunter" gets injured, and you're all like "fuck it, we don't KNOW him so he's just a moron."

That's lame, y0. The dude fuckin' died doing HG. I figured at least the people here wouldn't shit on him.

...Webby incident?

It never ceases to amaze me that people must place blame, this kid knew what he was getting into and even though a death is tragic, he must take responsibilty for his own dumb ass actions. Besides, that damn show says not to do it at home, etc... but then again, that hot coffee mcdonalds lawsuit got through so who knows.

I've tried explaining this shit many many times, I never let any of my crew members play with cars, they aren't fucking toys, its a priveleage to drive thats why theres a test and you gotta get a license, cars kill people in one way or another every god damn couple minutes, no joke! I remember years ago some dumbass was trying to jump from truck to truck like bam in the cky vid and he fell between the two cars and got his ass ran over, BOTTOM LINE CARS ARE NOT TOYS!! unless your a muppet cause they can just make new muppets at the jim henson studio like kermit and the rest of his buddies

f. u. playing with cars kicks ass. I wanna see more of it.

fuck jumping out of em, just fuck em up!

I can understand what your point is. but coming from you it means nothing. you shitted on me more than anyone else from other sites and forums did and you do KNOW me.

I still cant understand why you've acted like a cunt towards me after I got out of hospital after we've been cool for along time. helped me out when I needed help...

I feel stupid saying it but you was one of the few I looked up to.

-webby

I remembered that video you made from the hospital. How you apologized for for pushing people, and warned them of the dangers n such.

But the fact is, through out your tragity, you've become a figure head for doing stunts. A force to push other, and younger people further and harder. You warned to jsut stop fire stunts in your hospital video, but It's not just the fire, it's "stunts".

All the guys on here have 60+ years left to succeed, get married, have kids, retire and enjoy their whole lives.

Jackass/CKY did stunts, but not this death-defying shit everyone is tryin' to pull now-a-days. It's all been built up in this race "not to be a pussy". And it's not going to end up pretty.

I don't care if I sound like a dad or what the fuck ever. It's true man. The glory you get from HGF is not worth 60+ years of possibilites that you have with the rest of your life.

People think you're the coolest fuck in the world for survining such an ordeal, and continuing on with homegrown. And while it's commendable to keep doing what you love no matter what, I'd still hoped you'd use your some-what expert status to maybe persuade people to be more creative, instead of more dangerous.

You went through this shit, you know first hand it's not worth 20 seconds of cool footage.

Anyways. That was my beef. I don't want to see the next "guy falling out of car and dying immitating jackass", to be one of my pals here.


edit: and about my quote. I was just pointing out how ironic it is that if people don't know a person, they'll just shit on him, and when they do know a person, they're "a hero".

BJ Your like the smartest/wisest pothead I know......I wanna like....take you to school and be like this is proof pot does not make you stupid.

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I was way more dumb before the marijuana. Christ I hope they legalize it.

problem being if you look at most of the hg and jackass wanna be groups outside of the hgforums, are mostly kids in school. no common sense yet, most people under 18 just have a hard time realizing the danger they are putting themselves into cause they feel invincable, who knows how long these guys have been doing this shit, they probably have only been filming for short while, and have never had an incident like the rest of us who have either had close calls or burn permanantley scared in one way or another and just thought "hey fuck it jump out the car" first off I wouldn't be in the car if driver jumped out, and the passenger was grabbing the steering wheel???? I smell idiot all over these kids! fuck you guys if you jump out of the car while driving and I'm in the back seat you better hope you die cause if you don't I'm gonna kick that mo fo's ass!!!!! but in another sense we all know what risks we take, that's why I suggest if you are young you've got plenty of time to learn things that are technical, be original, and learn some shit that actually takes talent, steveo didn't steal johnny's spotlight just cause he is crazy, he also can do things the rest of them can't!

im glad you didnt ignore me this time. this might get long.



I put out the video to show if your making a stunt movie..is it worth to use fire, iv never been burnt before. I was shocked more than anyone to see my face after sergury. I can only warn people about fire isnt worth it because I know 1st hand. I never knew how bad it could be, I wanted to show others what it can do in terms of danage, why else would I put my face online. too warn, even scare, if they carry on to use fire, they know the risks, I cant tell people to stop doing stunts. thats up too the rest of the forum. as far as I know 99% of them saw the warn but didnt take any notice. its up to them dude iv tryed my hardest. I think my clip is a very powerful warning. I shouldnt get shitted on because I didnt tell everygroup to totally pack stunts in. the fact is that message was freestyled. no planning. no writing it in my head. I cant tell to never do normal stunts if I plan to do stunts once im 100% again.



they still have all that to happen. people do die. accidents do happen. but if your doing somthing you know is dangerus you try put that in the back of your mind. I bet anyone who does anything risky will put it there but not totally ignore it.

not everything is death-defying, like you said jackass/cky did stunts and they have basicly done everything. so people get creative and think of stunts they feel they can do what hasnt been played out. so they do. half the time its not what the stunt is that kills people its how the stunt was done...it isnt the planing its the performens, like you said jackass did stunts but nothing death defying, well im sure you've heard lots of storys of people dying doing the same stunts they saw on jackass...people who do stunts KNOW they anit pros...but people will be people and do what they want.



the glory iv gotten from fellow stuntmen/film makers is a nice extra. I dont live of it or id have videos out every week all my footage online. I started doing this before I knew about this site,before ckf before I knew other people did this all over the world and I would of carried on. I think I wouldnt of been as good because all I had as gidence was tv and dvds but this is closer to the action. im in a scene.

while I enjoy both creative and dangerous content I dont tell people to do one or the other. im not as big as your making me out to be here. its hgf its self that makes people want to go harder. I wont preach about not doing anything dangerus when my groups been making a dvd packed with danger. people enjoy danger. jackass in its day looked extreme. now it looks weak. people are always looking to up the bar..it happens all the time on this site. again I can no way change this weather you beleave im to blame or can change it. I cant.. no one can.



I geust I was one of your pals on here but all you did was make fun of it. whats the difference if I had died. would you of done it still or now because im still alive looking mess you did it so you could kick a man while hes down in a bad bad way?



I said your point was ture but people called me a hero because when the stunt went wrong I remained calm got myself out of trouble but saw my friend hadnt stayed calm and had panicked, I was there to save her no matter how long it took, no matter if I was killing myself each time I tryed, I got her out of danger, stayed calm untill she was in the hands of the paramedics..I kept my head even tho I was dying myself fast and didnt have long to live I risked everything to get her safe. thats why people called me a 'hero' and a 'true friend' if you cant see why they say that I really have nothing more to say to you. im not convice you. im just telling you how it is. you've already made your mind up about me it seems.


-marc

this is why I dont enjoy HG as much as I did, people it's not about getting hurt it's just about giving out a good video you dont need to like jump off a 5 story buliding for a good video. I think Chris told me that last year if I remember right, And he's got a point.

not to sidetrack or anything, but what happened to u webby? u guys have mentioned it and some kind of video u put out, but what happened?

Anything can happens, anytime, anywheres.

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Webby will fill you in but Ill cut it down to its finer points.

Webby and Shellz were doing shit out in the woods with petrol filled light tubes.

They somehow ( I dont know the particulars) exploded and caught fire, burning both Webby and Shellz extremely badly.

Then like a week or two after it, Webby made a short video, that showed his face fucked up from the fire and warning others. It should be on here somewhere.

Do you honestly expect people to care about someone they've never even heard of? You cant care about the incident if you don't care about the person.

There are people here who spend 5 hours a day on these boards. That's like a fifth of their day. It adds up dude...people spend alot of time here...and even though it's just an internet board...some people start to care for one another. I consider some of the people here good friends, and I would much like to hang out with them in the real world. This is how many people felt about Webby. They cared when Webby was hurt cause they considered him a friend. So thats the difference in my opinion.

And so far...everyones been pretty sympathetic ...with all things considered. There will always be a few cunts who go "lawl"...im just glad its not as bad as ckf...where everyone says shit just for shock value.

nah dude not even. No offense Boner, but you contradict yourself even more than I do. Right now you talk about your stance on stunts and having the rest of your life ahead of you...but you just said a couple weeks ago something along the lines of "fuck you I dont wanna live forever" in the smoking thread. You just make shit up to prove points. But it doesnt really matter...when youre bored on the internet you gotta do what you gotta do..

jiih, boner smokes and I do stunts, it all gets even in the end



Eeeh, just wanted to post some nonsense, I smoke too Image file not present in the recovered backup

same shit different day.

if your over this year. I'll get louzy to come over and we can have a session and watch hg dvd...cool? I think so

Damn that sucks what happened to that guy. I dont know what he thought would happen or how he thought he would not get hurt or die... I feel for his parents though.

I think Boner made some good points though.... You guys were flaming the shit out of some forums when webby got hurt and they never knew him so why was it wrong? Just cos you dont know him dont meen that you should say all that bad shit about him.

I think Webby is doing a good job in showing everyone what could go wrong... But at the same point he is on the same sort of level as everyone on here so its easy for everyone to listen to him.

I guess its just teens being teens... they all think that things wont happen to them... They all think people die like they do in the movies... they all think they can do shit they see on TV... Only one way for them to learn and thats to fall down and get backup.

(Kinda off subject)
Its like my kid... When she was learning to walk she was walking outside down some stairs and fell and cut her leg... I never ran to her first of all so she would learn.... She now walks down the stars better...

Everyone has to learn but if you have someone to guide you and to learn from who you look upto (Hence Webby) you dont have to go though everything they did.

But maybe Pushing people to go harder is not good. I think thats good thing Boner had a point with....

but that point was saying I push people to go harder...which I dont..never told them to do anything. I'll leave good feedback if someone does a good stunt, I mean who dont like seeing a good stunt? and if its bad I tell them to try improve and how too but not much now as others who have learnt leave helping feedback I would.

haha, how can you compare smoking to jumping out of cars and lighting yourself on fire and shit? That just sounds like you making up points to have a point.

And fuck no I don't wanna live forever. But I know I don't wanna live any amount of time as a parapalegic, or die soon for that matter.

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Hahaha.

You know... statistics tell that smoking is more dangerous Image file not present in the recovered backup