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Pro-Life or Pro-Choice?

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Doyle
post #31
09 September 2005, 10:18 UTC#31
Pro-Life. Till about 2 years ago I was all Pro-choice.... But now I have my own kid and saw this program about how the baby can suck its own thumb at under 1month old and even tast.... Theres no way I can see anygood reason to kill a baby.

If a girl dont want a kid then you dont have sex. this is why I dont feel sorry for the people in africa who have like 10 kids and moan.

yeah theres rape and that is real sad.... and I dont know what to say in that sitation....


made
post #32
09 September 2005, 11:33 UTC#32
I null voted, cause I think abortion is wrong but its there choice. I all babies should have a chance to live but then I think in some cases it may be cruel to let them be born, im wierd on this subject.
pattyt18
post #33
09 September 2005, 16:06 UTC#33
pro-choice, if you voted pro-life then it would would give the benefit leeches no choice about stealing the countries money, plus the fact that if you have sex with someone whos like 15, then you pretty fucking screwed if they get pregnant, or if a couple/family just isnt ready to have a child and the girl gets pregnant then they could end up homeless
Doyle
post #34
09 September 2005, 16:59 UTC#34
QUOTE(pattyt18 @ Sep 9 2005, 05:06 PM)
pro-choice, if you voted pro-life then it would would give the benefit leeches no choice about stealing the countries money, plus the fact that if you have sex with someone whos like 15, then you pretty fucking screwed if they get pregnant, or if a couple/family just isnt ready to have a child and the girl gets pregnant then they could end up homeless
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Its easy to say that... but when you look at it from a real point of view then you have a real life. And it does have life... just no voice.

And if some girl got herself into this situation then she should luive with her mistake not just walk down the docs and end it....

And even if she dont want it she can adopt.

I have no prob with anyone taking a life if they did something wrong... But a baby has done fuck all apart from having a bad mother.
sam[gomp]
post #35
09 September 2005, 17:10 UTC#35
fuck u, some people barely manage to live with the money they have and bringing up a child that isn't wanted will just make that kids and their parent's lives hell. Probably bringing some resentment to the child too... shit happens in life, mistakes happen. I bet you have had times when u wish something had never happened and u could just stop the consequences, just because you personaly think it's wrong doesnt mean that everybody else shouldnt be able to do it. I think smokings fucking stupid thats kiling lives but I dont think I have any right to stop people doing it. It should be made legal. Just because it is doesn't mean that u have to get it done u can shag all the girls u want and leave them as single mothers and be happy about it...


edit: plus someone getting pregnant doesn't make them a bad person as you called them a bad mother
Boner Jones
post #36
09 September 2005, 17:20 UTC#36
YES LETS BREED EVEN IF WE DON'T WANT IT!!!

LETS GIVE IT AWAY AND CROWD UP THE ORPHANAGES!!!

LETS LET THE BABY HAVE AN UNFAIR CHANCE AT LIFE, ALONG WITH EMOTIONAL SCARRING FROM BEING THROWN AWAY BY WORTHLESS PARENTS!!!

THAT'S MUCH BETTER THAN NEVER EXISTING IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! WOO!
Doyle
post #37
09 September 2005, 17:23 UTC#37
You say all that but your saying that its ok to kill a child. let that child think what it wants instead of letting some stupid girl who could not keep her legs shut and never took all the facts of using protaction that could have stopped all this. everyone knows it.....

And your saying that this kid will have a bad life... The girl can always have the kid and then give it away to a loving family who want it more then anything... instead of taking the stupid way out and killing a baby and making its last few moments a living hell.
DRgirly
post #38
09 September 2005, 18:50 UTC#38
if I was a retard and got myself into that situation id deal with it, but if I was raped I wouldnt want to have some sick fukks baby
sam[gomp]
post #39
09 September 2005, 19:07 UTC#39
dude not every girl that gets pregnant is a slut or a retard so stop talking that shit. You can't do it after 12 weeks or something, thats when it resembles a child. Before that it's just cells. You kill cells every day. millions of them do you lose sleep over that? Once it starts to resemble a child I think it's bad but even so putting a child that's not wanted into the world is unfair on the parents and the child and will cause the child to be brought up poorly if they can't afford it or cost one of the parents a job. and thats if they're together. Some people don't want children because it would mess up their lives. Forcing them to keep a child when they don't want to is against free will and unfair

Duran
post #40
09 September 2005, 19:48 UTC#40
getting an abortion and killing a child r 2 different things. do u remember being in the womb? it would be like dieing in your sleep before u ever awake.
Boner Jones
post #41
09 September 2005, 19:48 UTC#41
QUOTE(SaM{LoB} @ Sep 9 2005, 07:07 PM)
dude not every girl that gets pregnant is a slut or a retard so stop talking that shit.
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yeah, get off you're fucking pedistal people.

yeah, there are those chicks who will fuck anything with a dick, but alot of these cases are just young naive girls who make mistakes.

Alot of you fuckin' people have more compasion for a clump of cells, than for another human being whose life has already begun.

sam[gomp]
post #42
09 September 2005, 20:14 UTC#42
QUOTE(Boner Jones @ Sep 9 2005, 07:48 PM)
QUOTE(SaM{LoB} @ Sep 9 2005, 07:07 PM)
dude not every girl that gets pregnant is a slut or a retard so stop talking that shit.
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yeah, get off you're fucking pedistal people.

yeah, there are those chicks who will fuck anything with a dick, but alot of these cases are just young naive girls who make mistakes.

Alot of you fuckin' people have more compasion for a clump of cells, than for another human being whose life has already begun.
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amen
Doyle
post #43
09 September 2005, 20:23 UTC#43
QUOTE(SaM{LoB} @ Sep 9 2005, 08:07 PM)
dude not every girl that gets pregnant is a slut or a retard so stop talking that shit. You can't do it after 12 weeks or something, thats when it resembles a child. Before that it's just cells. You kill cells every day. millions of them do you lose sleep over that? Once it starts to resemble a child I think it's bad but even so putting a child that's not wanted into the world is unfair on the parents and the child and will cause the child to be brought up poorly if they can't afford it or cost one of the parents a job. and thats if they're together. Some people don't want children because it would mess up their lives. Forcing them to keep a child when they don't want to is against free will and unfair
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If you did your homework you would know that its shit that there cells. If you did your homework you would know that:

"At eight to nine weeks the eyelids have begun forming and hair appears. By the ninth and tenth weeks the preborn child sucks her thumb, turns somersaults, jumps, can squint to close out light, frown, swallow, and move her tongue."

Ask yourself this question: Do you know when human Life begins?

if not:

"If no one knows when life begins, it might begin at conception. If it does begin at that point, then abortion is murder. Can we justify killing what might be a human being? Should we shoot at a moving object in the woods if we are not sure whether or not it is human? Then neither should we kill babies if we are not sure they are not human."

And I am not saying I am right.... I used to agree with you. But when I went and read about it and knew the "facts" I changed my mind.

If your right... dont get some upset.

QUOTE(Boner Jones @ Sep 9 2005, 08:48 PM)
QUOTE(SaM{LoB} @ Sep 9 2005, 07:07 PM)
dude not every girl that gets pregnant is a slut or a retard so stop talking that shit.
[right][snapback]171651[/snapback][/right]


yeah, get off you're fucking pedistal people.

yeah, there are those chicks who will fuck anything with a dick, but alot of these cases are just young naive girls who make mistakes.

Alot of you fuckin' people have more compasion for a clump of cells, than for another human being whose life has already begun.
[right][snapback]171661[/snapback][/right]


True.... But its a fair few
tomm
post #44
09 September 2005, 20:27 UTC#44
pro choice
sam[gomp]
post #45
09 September 2005, 20:41 UTC#45
QUOTE(Doyle @ Sep 9 2005, 08:23 PM)
QUOTE(SaM{LoB} @ Sep 9 2005, 08:07 PM)
dude not every girl that gets pregnant is a slut or a retard so stop talking that shit. You can't do it after 12 weeks or something, thats when it resembles a child. Before that it's just cells. You kill cells every day. millions of them do you lose sleep over that? Once it starts to resemble a child I think it's bad but even so putting a child that's not wanted into the world is unfair on the parents and the child and will cause the child to be brought up poorly if they can't afford it or cost one of the parents a job. and thats if they're together. Some people don't want children because it would mess up their lives. Forcing them to keep a child when they don't want to is against free will and unfair
[right][snapback]171651[/snapback][/right]


If you did your homework you would know that its shit that there cells. If you did your homework you would know that:

"At eight to nine weeks the eyelids have begun forming and hair appears. By the ninth and tenth weeks the preborn child sucks her thumb, turns somersaults, jumps, can squint to close out light, frown, swallow, and move her tongue."

Ask yourself this question: Do you know when human Life begins?

if not:

"If no one knows when life begins, it might begin at conception. If it does begin at that point, then abortion is murder. Can we justify killing what might be a human being? Should we shoot at a moving object in the woods if we are not sure whether or not it is human? Then neither should we kill babies if we are not sure they are not human."

And I am not saying I am right.... I used to agree with you. But when I went and read about it and knew the "facts" I changed my mind.

If your right... dont get some upset.

QUOTE(Boner Jones @ Sep 9 2005, 08:48 PM)
QUOTE(SaM{LoB} @ Sep 9 2005, 07:07 PM)
dude not every girl that gets pregnant is a slut or a retard so stop talking that shit.
[right][snapback]171651[/snapback][/right]


yeah, get off you're fucking pedistal people.

yeah, there are those chicks who will fuck anything with a dick, but alot of these cases are just young naive girls who make mistakes.

Alot of you fuckin' people have more compasion for a clump of cells, than for another human being whose life has already begun.
[right][snapback]171661[/snapback][/right]


True.... But its a fair few
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not really
r0b
post #46
09 September 2005, 20:45 UTC#46
I say im pro life unless there is some circumstances as in rape or she is 13....I mean....my aunt and uncle wanted to adopt forever but finally gave up after bein on a waiting list for years....it just matters the situation...question should be more wide spread
sam[gomp]
post #47
09 September 2005, 20:52 UTC#47
k I just got a book for my a level with a load of questions I'll fire a few at you


1) You#re lost at sea with two others, in a life raft. You have no food. Without a suply of food, there's no way 3 would survive before being rescued. Two would survive by eating the third. What would you do
bordumbgirl
post #48
09 September 2005, 22:04 UTC#48
QUOTE(SaM{LoB} @ Sep 9 2005, 08:52 PM)
k I just got a book for my a level with a load of questions I'll fire a few at you


1) You#re lost at sea with two others, in a life raft. You have no food. Without a suply of food, there's no way 3 would survive before being rescued. Two would survive by eating the third. What would you do
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get out of the boat I would rather be ate by a shark. lol

the whole abortion thing...theres no way everyone will agree on it. But I think if you make the choice to have sex then thats is sumthing that can happen pregency and you should have thought of that before you had sex. It doesnt take long for those cells to resemble a baby. Im not sure but I think at 6 weeks its proven that babies feel pain. Rape cases a whole different story but for the most part. If you dont want a kid dont have sex lol
Doyle
post #49
09 September 2005, 23:48 UTC#49
QUOTE(SaM{LoB} @ Sep 9 2005, 09:41 PM)
QUOTE(Doyle @ Sep 9 2005, 08:23 PM)
QUOTE(SaM{LoB} @ Sep 9 2005, 08:07 PM)
dude not every girl that gets pregnant is a slut or a retard so stop talking that shit. You can't do it after 12 weeks or something, thats when it resembles a child. Before that it's just cells. You kill cells every day. millions of them do you lose sleep over that? Once it starts to resemble a child I think it's bad but even so putting a child that's not wanted into the world is unfair on the parents and the child and will cause the child to be brought up poorly if they can't afford it or cost one of the parents a job. and thats if they're together. Some people don't want children because it would mess up their lives. Forcing them to keep a child when they don't want to is against free will and unfair
[right][snapback]171651[/snapback][/right]


If you did your homework you would know that its shit that there cells. If you did your homework you would know that:

"At eight to nine weeks the eyelids have begun forming and hair appears. By the ninth and tenth weeks the preborn child sucks her thumb, turns somersaults, jumps, can squint to close out light, frown, swallow, and move her tongue."

Ask yourself this question: Do you know when human Life begins?

if not:

"If no one knows when life begins, it might begin at conception. If it does begin at that point, then abortion is murder. Can we justify killing what might be a human being? Should we shoot at a moving object in the woods if we are not sure whether or not it is human? Then neither should we kill babies if we are not sure they are not human."

And I am not saying I am right.... I used to agree with you. But when I went and read about it and knew the "facts" I changed my mind.

If your right... dont get some upset.

QUOTE(Boner Jones @ Sep 9 2005, 08:48 PM)
QUOTE(SaM{LoB} @ Sep 9 2005, 07:07 PM)
dude not every girl that gets pregnant is a slut or a retard so stop talking that shit.
[right][snapback]171651[/snapback][/right]


yeah, get off you're fucking pedistal people.

yeah, there are those chicks who will fuck anything with a dick, but alot of these cases are just young naive girls who make mistakes.

Alot of you fuckin' people have more compasion for a clump of cells, than for another human being whose life has already begun.
[right][snapback]171661[/snapback][/right]


True.... But its a fair few
[right][snapback]171697[/snapback][/right]


not really
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What sort of answer is that? I thought you would just answer somehow.... lol
Master Jayden
post #50
27 January 2007, 06:39 UTC#50
I love my bananas and cream oat meal yumm....

O and I am not typing my reasons because people tend to get offensive and bitchy about this subject and I dont feel like debating.
I am pro choice if its soon before the development begins.
I am prolife though. when its too late. when there is a heartbeat its alive. and it will be murder.
Funk Master Steven
post #51
27 January 2007, 07:00 UTC#51
Abortion, it's retarded to say anything else cause I mean everyone is pro life but abortion is the safest way for people who don't want babies to get rid of them.

People have been doing abortions way before there was surgerie or when it was illegal with cloths hangers and other shit. But they can't develope deadly infections that leave lots of chicks without a reproductive system.

So being bro abortion dosn't mean you hate life but you are for these peoples saftey.
Skipper
post #52
27 January 2007, 09:42 UTC#52
Pro Choice, being able to safely get rid of a child, who it isn't proven has any conciousness of it's exsistence or any feeling, who would come into a world un wanted and perhaps into a family where it couldn't be cared for, is a good thing in my opinion.
mchl
post #53
27 January 2007, 10:18 UTC#53
pro choice. some little 12 year old girl who has been raped has no reason to keep the rapists baby. I think the baby is alive like, as soon as it formed- I dont beleive in the whole, oh its only alive when it develops hands or that shit.
Fragile~Greg
post #54
27 January 2007, 10:51 UTC#54
QUOTE(mchl @ Jan 27 2007, 11:18 AM) [snapback]415321[/snapback]

pro choice. some little 12 year old girl who has been raped has no reason to keep the rapists baby. I think the baby is alive like, as soon as it formed- I dont beleive in the whole, oh its only alive when it develops hands or that shit.

Is it the baby's fault its mother was raped? It still has the right to live.
Rob764
post #55
27 January 2007, 10:53 UTC#55
QUOTE(Fragile~Greg @ Jan 27 2007, 01:51 PM) [snapback]415326[/snapback]

QUOTE(mchl @ Jan 27 2007, 11:18 AM) [snapback]415321[/snapback]

pro choice. some little 12 year old girl who has been raped has no reason to keep the rapists baby. I think the baby is alive like, as soon as it formed- I dont beleive in the whole, oh its only alive when it develops hands or that shit.

Is it the baby's fault its mother was raped? It still has the right to live.


So does the mother. A baby at 12 will fuck up your life, even if you have it adopted.
mchl
post #56
27 January 2007, 10:59 UTC#56
QUOTE(Rob764 @ Jan 27 2007, 11:53 AM) [snapback]415327[/snapback]

QUOTE(Fragile~Greg @ Jan 27 2007, 01:51 PM) [snapback]415326[/snapback]

QUOTE(mchl @ Jan 27 2007, 11:18 AM) [snapback]415321[/snapback]

pro choice. some little 12 year old girl who has been raped has no reason to keep the rapists baby. I think the baby is alive like, as soon as it formed- I dont beleive in the whole, oh its only alive when it develops hands or that shit.

Is it the baby's fault its mother was raped? It still has the right to live.


So does the mother. A baby at 12 will fuck up your life, even if you have it adopted.

Skipper
post #57
27 January 2007, 11:03 UTC#57
QUOTE(Fragile~Greg @ Jan 27 2007, 11:51 AM) [snapback]415326[/snapback]

QUOTE(mchl @ Jan 27 2007, 11:18 AM) [snapback]415321[/snapback]

pro choice. some little 12 year old girl who has been raped has no reason to keep the rapists baby. I think the baby is alive like, as soon as it formed- I dont beleive in the whole, oh its only alive when it develops hands or that shit.

Is it the baby's fault its mother was raped? It still has the right to live.


So you belive that a 12 year old shouldnt have the right to take some control of whats going on in her already fukced up life in which she has been raped and mentally fucked forever, and terminate a structure of cells that dosen't definatly feel pain?

You feel that she should have to go through mental and pshyical pain giving birth to a child that she dosent need or want that she had forced onto her by soem sick fucker who raped her and will be in her head forever?
corus.
post #58
27 January 2007, 11:14 UTC#58
Luke have you been raped?
Skipper
post #59
27 January 2007, 11:18 UTC#59
QUOTE(corus. @ Jan 27 2007, 12:14 PM) [snapback]415335[/snapback]

Luke have you been raped?


YUS.

Nah, but I just dont get people who feel that it's right to take away someones right to choose what they want to do.
corus.
post #60
27 January 2007, 11:36 UTC#60
If you want to keep your ass hole that way then shut up.