01 August 2005, 23:45 UTC#1
A story about how the Binladen bros tipped NASA scientist of how the US planned 9/11 in 1987. In order to cause a major catostrophy and a major war in the Middle East.
STORY01 August 2005, 23:49 UTC#2
the U.S govt. is beyond twisted
01 August 2005, 23:57 UTC#3
Yes Sir it is...
01 August 2005, 23:58 UTC#4
I need to post this, not because people believe this shit of Ilumanti, but... <br><br>
David Icke
David Icke, another pundit of the Illuminati, believes humans have been getting messages from alien "Illuminati-reptilians" for thousands of years. The reptiles explain such things as the Gregorian calendar.
The whole senario [sic] was planned centuries ago because the reptilians, operating from the lower fourth dimension, and indeed whatever force controls them, have a very different version of "time" than we have, hence they can see and plan down the three-dimensional "time"-line in a way that those in three-dimensional form cannot.*
Icke fancies himself "The most controversial author and speaker in the world."* For him, the origin of the Illuminati is extraterrestrial. He knows this because he is sure we have been contacted regularly with messages from beyond by the alien lizards. He explains it all in several books, especially The Biggest Secret: The Book That Will Change the World.*<br>
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Milton William "Bill" Cooper
Cooper was a leader of the Arizona militia movement until his death in a shootout with a sheriff's deputy. Cooper opened fire on the deputy when he tried to issue a warrant for assaulting his neighbor. Cooper wrote The Secret Government: a Covenant with Death - The Origin, Identity, and Purpose of MJ-12, a paper given in Las Vegas at a MUFON meeting in 1989 focusing essentially on his belief of a cover-up of an alien crash at Roswell. He also wrote Secret Societies/ New World Order. He claimed that he got his information "directly from, or as a result of my own research into the TOP SECRET/MAJIC material WHICH I SAW AND READ between the years 1970 and 1973 as a member of the Intelligence Briefing Team of the Commander in Chief of the Pacific Fleet." (PCTs seem to like to use CAPS for EMPHASIS.) Cooper's veracity about his career in the Navy and his access to secret documents has been questioned publicly on alt.alien.visitor, as have other aspects of his personality. Cooper ran williamcooper.com, a site which promoted his many rants, including an autobiographical page that might be of interest to certain mental health professionals.
Cooper's "investigations" uncovered the usual conspiracies, although he also included some of the new ones such as the conspiracy to use AIDS to thin out the population of blacks, Hispanics and homosexuals, a notion he put forth in a book called Behold a Pale Horse. What Cooper lacked in hard evidence he oversupplied in detail and imagination.
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The actual mechanism by which PCTs arrive at their weird notions is not that difficult to ascertain. The mentally ill people I came to know couched their paranoid fears in terms of the F.B.I. and the C.I.A. They had no communal reinforcement of their delusions, however. No talk show host or publisher invited them to share their delusions with the world. They are under treatment, have been hospitalized, arrested, etc. They know that those around them will not accept their delusions. This is not true of religious or UFO groups. They reinforce each other and strengthen each other's resolve. They encourage each other to accept possibility as equal to probability, material experience as inferior to dreams, hallucinations, and out-of-body experiences, etc. They have no watchdog equivalent to I. F. Stone, and the mass media is too busy chasing tabloid rumors and celebrities to serve as a watchdog of anything. And since the PCTs function almost completely outside of the normal arenas where they would be challenged and forced to produce evidence in place of speculation, they flourish relatively unscathed and await their next appearance on the Art Bell or George Noory or Pat Robertson show, seemingly oblivious to the absurdity of such behavior during the final days of planet earth.
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02 August 2005, 00:01 UTC#5
What...the...fuck!? Alien lizards? I dont read or believe shit that crazy. Just what Alex Jones says...he backs it up with footage and facts, and also some documents.
02 August 2005, 00:04 UTC#6
Alex Jones does some interesting documents... bit out there, but entertaining and at the some point informative.
02 August 2005, 00:11 UTC#7
Thumb-scanning
To demonstrate how Alex can take a legitimate political position and twist it beyond all recognition, look at thumb scanning for driver's licenses. Texas has had this scanning for a couple of years now. And civil libertarians are upset about it; they feel (as I do) that the scanning is intrusive and has great potential to be abused. In a country that values its privacy, this type of program seems to be a huge step in the wrong direction.
But naturally, Alex takes it one step further. According to him, this is a deliberate attempt by government to track its citizens for the nefarious purposes of the coming one-world government. The idea, I suppose, is that it'll make it easier for them to herd people off to concentration camps.
Let's be realistic for a moment. Scanning proponents aren't evil and they don't intend for the program to be used for evil. It's not a deliberate maneuver by the alleged New World Order. What it is is a misguided policy judgment, and nothing more.
UPDATE: On Wednesday, March 25, 1998 Alex Jones was arrested at the local DPS office when he went to renew his driver's license and protest thumb scanning. He was accompanied by a small group of protestors, none of whom was arrested. It is unclear from the footage I've seen whether he was arrested for not having his thumb scanned (unlikely) or for making a public disturbance and keeping other people from conducting their business at the DPS (more likely; the news footage showed Alex at the DPS counter screaming at the clerk that he wanted to renew his driver's license and that he wouldn't submit to a thumbscan when the police arrested him). I suppose Alex now fancies himself a Martin Luther King, Jr.-type figure. I'd dispute that; MLK never said racism came from the New World Order.
02 August 2005, 00:16 UTC#8
QUOTE(grosspranksteril @ Aug 2 2005, 01:11 AM)
Let's be realistic for a moment. Scanning proponents aren't evil...
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When it crushes and eat your finger and laughs Hahahah"evillaugh"hahahah, you will thin quite differently
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Yeah, he got arrested for refusing. But he didn't get charged for anything. I think the NWO is real, I was having an conversation with a Veitnam Vet. who was also a bodyguard for someone he couldnt name. I just mentioned New World Order and he turned very stern...he just said we shouldn't worry about things like that, its just reality.
02 August 2005, 00:18 UTC#10
I really have to agree with gross on this, A2K no offense but you can't believe everything you read. Alot of conspercy theroist don't know when to stop and take it to far.....
02 August 2005, 00:18 UTC#11
QUOTE(A2Kvideo @ Aug 2 2005, 12:17 AM)
Yeah, he got arrested for refusing. But he didn't get charged for anything. I think the NWO is real, I was having an conversation with a Veitnam Vet. who was also a bodyguard for someone he couldnt name. I just mentioned New World Order and he turned very stern...he just said we shouldn't worry about things like that, its just reality.
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Hey... *I* think NWO is real too... HOGAN rocks, man!
02 August 2005, 00:19 UTC#12
What ever degeneration X OWNS NWO!!!!
02 August 2005, 00:19 UTC#13
QUOTE(grosspranksteril @ Aug 2 2005, 12:18 AM)
QUOTE(A2Kvideo @ Aug 2 2005, 12:17 AM)
Yeah, he got arrested for refusing. But he didn't get charged for anything. I think the NWO is real, I was having an conversation with a Veitnam Vet. who was also a bodyguard for someone he couldnt name. I just mentioned New World Order and he turned very stern...he just said we shouldn't worry about things like that, its just reality.
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Hey... *I* think NWO is real too... HOGAN rocks, man!
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Once your NWO brother...your NWO 4 Life. lol
02 August 2005, 00:22 UTC#14
QUOTE(Nuggeto @ Aug 2 2005, 12:19 AM)
What ever degeneration X OWNS NWO!!!!
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Whatever happened to Macho Man? I'm craving a slim jim... maybe he went into hiding when Ms. Elizabeth died?
02 August 2005, 00:23 UTC#15
QUOTE(grosspranksteril @ Aug 2 2005, 12:22 AM)
QUOTE(Nuggeto @ Aug 2 2005, 12:19 AM)
What ever degeneration X OWNS NWO!!!!
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Whatever happened to Macho Man? I'm craving a slim jim... maybe he went into hiding when Ms. Elizabeth died?
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Mabye Lex Luger gave him drugs too?
02 August 2005, 00:24 UTC#16
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02 August 2005, 00:25 UTC#17
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Agreed, man. I went to Rassle Mania 2 (I think) at the Pontiac Silverdom and saw Andre vs. Hulk... the Iron Shiek... now we got gay acting champions trying to rap.
02 August 2005, 00:26 UTC#18
QUOTE(A2Kvideo @ Aug 2 2005, 12:23 AM)
QUOTE(grosspranksteril @ Aug 2 2005, 12:22 AM)
QUOTE(Nuggeto @ Aug 2 2005, 12:19 AM)
What ever degeneration X OWNS NWO!!!!
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Whatever happened to Macho Man? I'm craving a slim jim... maybe he went into hiding when Ms. Elizabeth died?
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Mabye Lex Luger gave him drugs too?
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lol... maybe. I'd rather not think about Lex offering Macho a slim jim, tho...
02 August 2005, 00:38 UTC#19
I like how this thread evolved from political discussion to conspiracy paranoia and the talk about wrestling

02 August 2005, 00:41 UTC#20
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02 August 2005, 00:43 UTC#21
yeah that seems to happen here alot

02 August 2005, 00:44 UTC#22
and now, macho man randy savage:
OH YEAHHH!!!!
SNAP INTO A SLIM JIM
02 August 2005, 00:46 UTC#23
OOOHHH YYYEEAAHHH!
02 August 2005, 01:33 UTC#24
thats fucking crazy actually believe it or not I think in a way that could be true I MEAN THINK ABOUT IT WHY DO YOU THINK THEY HAVENT FOUND BIN LADIN because if he agreed then he wanted freedom and not to be caught the took in everyone but binladin but then again its kinda crazy to think the government would be willing to risk lives over oil. BUT HEY whatever who knows....
02 August 2005, 02:22 UTC#25
QUOTE([Lunatiks]Steve @ Aug 2 2005, 01:33 AM)
but then again its kinda crazy to think the government would be willing to risk lives over oil. BUT HEY whatever who knows....
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yeah thats totaly unheard of...
usa risking lives over oil wtf?
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Ding you forgot one thing [/sarcasm]

02 August 2005, 09:11 UTC#27
DX KICKS ASS! FUCK THE nWo...
The US government can lick my ball sack... great... I bet they are after me now...
02 August 2005, 10:00 UTC#28
Interesting read there. I think that lately this shit is getting out of hand, the US goverment have so many conspiracy theorys against them, there is no way they are all lies. If the 9/11 thing is true and the goverment planned to kill all them people then the country is not what it use to be, so much for freedom...
20 August 2005, 01:15 UTC#29
QUOTE(MADE @ Aug 2 2005, 10:00 AM)
Interesting read there. I think that lately this shit is getting out of hand, the US goverment have so many conspiracy theorys against them, there is no way they are all lies. If the 9/11 thing is true and the goverment planned to kill all them people then the country is not what it use to be, so much for freedom...
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I actually dont think alot of the things I post are too hard to believe...I mean alot of the things I have posted have been backed up with facts. Not everything, but most of it.
20 August 2005, 01:39 UTC#30
QUOTE(grosspranksteril @ Aug 2 2005, 12:11 AM)
Thumb-scanningÂÂ
To demonstrate how Alex can take a legitimate political position and twist it beyond all recognition, look at thumb scanning for driver's licenses. Texas has had this scanning for a couple of years now. And civil libertarians are upset about it; they feel (as I do) that the scanning is intrusive and has great potential to be abused. In a country that values its privacy, this type of program seems to be a huge step in the wrong direction.
But naturally, Alex takes it one step further. According to him, this is a deliberate attempt by government to track its citizens for the nefarious purposes of the coming one-world government. The idea, I suppose, is that it'll make it easier for them to herd people off to concentration camps.
Let's be realistic for a moment. Scanning proponents aren't evil and they don't intend for the program to be used for evil. It's not a deliberate maneuver by the alleged New World Order. What it is is a misguided policy judgment, and nothing more.
UPDATE: On Wednesday, March 25, 1998 Alex Jones was arrested at the local DPS office when he went to renew his driver's license and protest thumb scanning. He was accompanied by a small group of protestors, none of whom was arrested. It is unclear from the footage I've seen whether he was arrested for not having his thumb scanned (unlikely) or for making a public disturbance and keeping other people from conducting their business at the DPS (more likely; the news footage showed Alex at the DPS counter screaming at the clerk that he wanted to renew his driver's license and that he wouldn't submit to a thumbscan when the police arrested him). I suppose Alex now fancies himself a Martin Luther King, Jr.-type figure. I'd dispute that; MLK never said racism came from the New World Order.
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As a criminal, I dont like the idea of thumbscanning, just like I dont like the idea of video camera surveillance on freeways and public streets in LA. But I guess I can always cut the skin of my thumb like John Doe in Seven.