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Brits to get "per mile" road tax

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post #1
06 June 2005, 01:07 UTC#1
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Drivers could pay up to £1.34 a mile in "pay-as-you go" road charges under new government plans.

The transport secretary said the charges, aimed at cutting congestion, would replace road tax and petrol duty.

Alistair Darling said change was needed if the UK was to avoid the possibility of "LA-style gridlock" within 20 years.

Every vehicle would have a black box to allow a satellite system to track their journey, with prices starting from as little as 2p per mile in rural areas.

Mr Darling has outlined his proposals to the BBC - previewing a speech he will give to the Social Market Foundation on Thursday.

"The advantage is that you would free up capacity on the roads, you would reduce the congestion that we would otherwise face and you would avoid the gridlock that you see in many American cities today," he said.

"This is a prize well worth going for. We've got to ask ourselves: would it work. Could it bring the benefits that I believe it could bring, because it would make a real change to the way we drive in this country."

A satellite tracking system would be used to enforce the toll, with prices varying from 2p per mile for driving on a quiet road out of the rush hour to £1.34 for motorways at peak times.

The Department of Transport says the scheme would be fairer because those who travel greater distances would pay the most.

"We have got to do everything we can during the course of this parliament to decide whether or not we go with road pricing," Mr Darling said.

If public reaction is favourable, a pilot scheme planned for the Leeds area could be rolled out nationwide within the next 10 years.


The Environment Agency's Nick Rijke warned that shifting money away from fuel duty would take away the incentive for people to use green vehicles.

And AA Motoring Trust director Bert Morris said there were a number of issues which needed to be addressed.

"Tourism is car-based in this country. Would we have empty hotels on summer days on the coast if people couldn't afford to drive?"

It was also important to ensure that drivers with less money were not penalised, Mr Morris added.

RAC Foundation spokeswoman Sue Nicholson said the plan could help counter a projected 45% growth in congestion problems by 2030.

Improving alternatives

"Providing this tax was substitutional to fuel tax and road tax and provided we had some other guarantees then I think, for a lot of people, this would be a tempting option," she said.

Environmental group Friends of the Earth broadly welcomed road charging but warned the transport crisis could only be tackled if money raised was invested in improving alternatives to car travel.

Professor Garel Rhys, director of the Centre for Automotive Industry Research at Cardiff university's business school, believed road pricing would have to be introduced in the UK.

But he warned: "The key is trying to introduce those tolls without affecting the flow of traffic, ie. not having to stop and pay at a booth which caused congestion itself.

"Governments will upset at their peril society's wish to do what it wants to do and that is to move around."


£1.34 per mile at peak times, is fucking insane. Good luck Brits, haha.

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4610755.stm
post #2
06 June 2005, 01:07 UTC#2
wow that dosent concern me at all!!!!!!
post #3
06 June 2005, 01:10 UTC#3
QUOTE(VILLAGEIDIOTS @ Jun 6 2005, 03:07 AM)
wow that dosent concern me at all!!!!!!
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Think yourself lucky then
post #4
06 June 2005, 01:19 UTC#4
lets see... my dads van had 30,000+ miles on it... thats like 33,400 of those dollar signs you have that look like an L!

American pride
post #5
06 June 2005, 01:23 UTC#5
QUOTE(shriney @ Jun 6 2005, 01:19 AM)
lets see... my dads van had 30,000+ miles on it... thats like 33,400 of those dollar signs you have that look like an L!

American pride
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Yeah fuck that shit, America4eva.
post #6
06 June 2005, 02:09 UTC#6
heard about this on the news earlier, im going in for my test soon as I get a new job at last I hope this doesnt go into force like becuase all ill be doing is driving they say the "might" lower petrol prices but will probably work out more expensive if they keep petrol prices the same and scrap that idea. but on the other hand if you have a real flash car and loads of money you get raped on road taxes and insurance so I suppose if it did go into force people with less income will benefit in a way. do the US pay any kind of road tax, MOT, car insurance and shit?
post #7
06 June 2005, 07:07 UTC#7
That's not the worst idea ever, But a pound a mile? flag that shit
post #8
06 June 2005, 07:09 UTC#8
im happy I dont live there and cant drive
post #9
06 June 2005, 09:39 UTC#9
haha, our country is getting fxcking weird! before you know it we will have a tax per sheet of toilet paper! some guy standing there making sure how may sheets you take, then handing you a bill! tut tut britain!
post #10
06 June 2005, 17:17 UTC#10
That's fucking rediculous! Starting driving at the end of this year hopefully, it better not effect me!
post #11
06 June 2005, 17:18 UTC#11
QUOTE(Scott @ Jun 6 2005, 07:17 PM)
That's fucking rediculous! Starting driving at the end of this year hopefully, it better not effect me!
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Lol, you'll be taking the bus if it does biggrin.gif
post #12
06 June 2005, 17:19 UTC#12
It isn't predicted to be in place for about 15 years.
post #13
06 June 2005, 17:20 UTC#13
QUOTE(M0N0 @ Jun 6 2005, 07:19 PM)
It isn't predicted to be in place for about 15 years.
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Ah well, it'll only affect you when you're at the ripe age of around 31 then Image file not present in the recovered backup
post #14
06 June 2005, 17:22 UTC#14
QUOTE(gman @ Jun 6 2005, 05:20 PM)
QUOTE(M0N0 @ Jun 6 2005, 07:19 PM)
It isn't predicted to be in place for about 15 years.
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Ah well, it'll only affect you when you're at the ripe age of around 31 then Image file not present in the recovered backup
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Hellz yeah. biggrin.gif
post #15
06 June 2005, 17:24 UTC#15
I plan to be dead by the time I'm 31, so I'm not too worried.
post #16
06 June 2005, 17:27 UTC#16
QUOTE(Rob - DR - @ Jun 6 2005, 06:24 PM)
I plan to be dead by the time I'm 31, so I'm not too worried.
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How do you plan to die?
post #17
06 June 2005, 17:27 UTC#17
Massive orgasm from fucking me of course Image file not present in the recovered backup
post #18
06 June 2005, 17:28 UTC#18
AIDS, old chap, what else? Image file not present in the recovered backup
post #19
06 June 2005, 17:29 UTC#19
Alcohol poisoning?
post #20
06 June 2005, 17:30 UTC#20
QUOTE(Rob - DR - @ Jun 6 2005, 07:28 PM)
AIDS, old chap, what else?  Image file not present in the recovered backup
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post #21
06 June 2005, 17:31 UTC#21
QUOTE(M0N0 @ Jun 6 2005, 06:29 PM)
Alcohol poisoning?
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A combination of both AIDS and alcohol poisoning.

My, the night of October 20th 2012 will be quite an occasion biggrin.gif
post #22
06 June 2005, 17:32 UTC#22
Fine, fuck other men then Image file not present in the recovered backup
post #23
06 June 2005, 17:32 UTC#23
QUOTE(Rob - DR - @ Jun 6 2005, 05:31 PM)
QUOTE(M0N0 @ Jun 6 2005, 06:29 PM)
Alcohol poisoning?
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A combination of both AIDS and alcohol poisoning.

My, the night of October 20th 2012 will be quite an occasion biggrin.gif
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Octoberfest VIII biggrin.gif
post #24
06 June 2005, 17:33 UTC#24
QUOTE(gman @ Jun 6 2005, 06:30 PM)
QUOTE(Rob - DR - @ Jun 6 2005, 07:28 PM)
AIDS, old chap, what else?  Image file not present in the recovered backup
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Man, I don't have AIDS, I already said
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Says you, you dirty whore
post #25
06 June 2005, 17:34 UTC#25
QUOTE(M0N0 @ Jun 6 2005, 06:32 PM)
QUOTE(Rob - DR - @ Jun 6 2005, 05:31 PM)
QUOTE(M0N0 @ Jun 6 2005, 06:29 PM)
Alcohol poisoning?
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A combination of both AIDS and alcohol poisoning.

My, the night of October 20th 2012 will be quite an occasion biggrin.gif
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Octoberfest VIII biggrin.gif
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You noes it Image file not present in the recovered backup
post #26
06 June 2005, 17:34 UTC#26
QUOTE(Rob - DR - @ Jun 6 2005, 07:33 PM)
QUOTE(gman @ Jun 6 2005, 06:30 PM)
QUOTE(Rob - DR - @ Jun 6 2005, 07:28 PM)
AIDS, old chap, what else?  Image file not present in the recovered backup
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Man, I don't have AIDS, I already said
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Says you, you dirty whore
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post #27
06 June 2005, 17:37 UTC#27
lmfao, dude thats great biggrin.gif
post #28
06 June 2005, 18:06 UTC#28
Thats one fucking big grin. biggrin.gif