27 July 2009, 23:43 UTC#1
Hey geniuses,
I just wanted to ask you guys if you see any kind of logic in that according to my copy of Premiere Pro CS4, a PAL widescreen picture would fit into these dimensions, 720 x 526, while an NTSC widescreen is 720 x 480?
That doesn't really make sense does it?
28 July 2009, 00:05 UTC#2
I think its cuz you euros are closer to japs....get it. width wider in videos, eyes wider in life. teeeeeeeee
28 July 2009, 00:33 UTC#3
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Hey geniuses,
I just wanted to ask you guys if you see any kind of logic in that according to my copy of Premiere Pro CS4, a PAL widescreen picture would fit into these dimensions, 720 x 526, while an NTSC widescreen is 720 x 480?
That doesn't really make sense does it?
That's a fair point, there must be some explainable reason that I don't know of.
*waits for Dex*
Image file not present in the recovered backup28 July 2009, 00:58 UTC#4
Basically due to the paths of technology the television broadcast companies took they have often been prohibited to all use the same standard, because all their cameras and machines have been running the way they 'decided was the right way' and all their staff are trained to understand it a that way and have all their systems set up for it..
Long story short it has meant there are big differences in frame rate, dimension size even aspect ration and feild dominance when you compare pal with ntsc.
28 July 2009, 01:06 UTC#5
ben wheres the video??
28 July 2009, 07:00 UTC#6
Well the fucker keeps exporting it into a 4:3 format when it's supposed to be 16:9, so the picture is all squeezed horizontally.
I can't think of any reason for this mess than that my camera actually records in NTSC 29,97fps.
This is a hard one to crack because PAL widescreen 25fps does actually look smoother when I export it, but it shows up as 4:3 for some reason when I play it, and the only way I can make it appear as 16:9 is by exporting the project as NTSC widescreen 29,97fps..
28 July 2009, 12:40 UTC#7
Yeah, pal and ntsc have different dimensions. Its e.g. reason for those little black bars in cbadly converted console games-
I know for a fact that your camera records in PAL format, so that cant be the case. What player do you use for playing it? The problem is most likely in the player you are using.
What was your project settings for premiere? Would that be messing it up?
28 July 2009, 15:11 UTC#8
My project settings should be fine, I've always just used the presets and for this I used a PAL widescreen 25fps (720x526), which I thought that the clips would be in too, but when I've exported the project in PAL widescreen 720x526, all mediaplayers will play it in distorted 4:3 for some reason..
However, I got the right dimensions now that I switched it to export into NTSC widescreen 720x480 29,97fps.
And now I notice that Youtube's conception of what widescreen is, is completely different too.. It's fucked up that every fucking media house uses different aspect ratios and what not FUCK
28 July 2009, 15:15 UTC#9
What the hell. Does your prem export anykind of pal footage?
28 July 2009, 15:22 UTC#10
Yeah, but it seems as if Premiere is more NTSC friendly. Or at least it has more presets for NTSC. But this clip is just for the web so I guess it doesn't really matter that much since it works now with NTSC and 29,97 fps, but it would be nice to know for future references. I can show you some day.. It beats the crap out of me..