Sabotage2

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sweet I think this year its time for you're idea...

evil-webby meets dextor mowatt : the redocumentary

Abit like the vid when you met dan for first time, but instead of you killing me at the end, we should both be killing a girl, and when I saw killing I just mean destroying her tag team, high fives and all that good stuff.


Shotgun anus.

lol well I see you've changed the ending, but I like it. it might even be possible. but that ending cant go online, dvd extras maybe

haha fuck looks awesome, wanna see the rest of the end for sure..

About this graffiti...

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...is it live-action bombing graffiti?...

looks killer as always

thanks weak

and yeah, full throttle graff action
you'll see the dvd soon, im guessing it would be done in 9 months tops
time flies

isnt filming other peoples graff cheating though?

how so? im giving them exposure

How is that cheating even in the slightest, he films them himself, so they are working with him. almost a "member of the crew" if u wanna put it that way.

looks like he filmed already finsihed pieces hes found round the city, post screen caps of the artist doing them and I'll beleave they are from almost members of the crew.

Yeah, Ryan. Your work should be done only under the agreement of Marc. If he doesn't agree with it, you might as well just throw it all away.

well normaly people show the artist doing the graff in videos, I could just go film all the graff round london throw it in my trailer for a more urban feel, but I think thats cheating.

seems to me like its the real thing.

seems or is, thats the question, I can make anything seem like something in editing.

Looking forward to this.
sabo tag your name on it so that its real.

Yeah, that's what I thought too from that response, but I guess I'm a goofy little rascal lololol

Seriously, it's not that hard to get in contact with graffiti writers. Most of them are cool with being filmed, after all, most big writers have been in dvd's before. And it gives loads of publicity. As far as cheating goes, you can't really use the word "cheating" for helping writers getting their name out there.

its like if I sat a skatepark each week filming people skate and ride bmx without them knowing, then used all the clips in an extreme sports dvd. that isnt cheating? if you say so...

I think ryan knows these writers, at least that's what I presume.

maybe he does, maybe he dont, he hasnt came back with proof and fans of his are coming to his defence instead....so you know, dont really help. lol

I'm not defending him, I just can't see how somebody could have live footage of graffiti, with the writers not knowing about it. I'm just going to post a pic of an umbrella now















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umm yes you are, you responding for him without even knowing any details, like claiming showing shots of finsihed tags around the city is "live footage" how so when they will stay up 24/7 anyone with a camera could get a shot without the artist knowing. I dont see them standing next to it posing, so how is it Live? lol!

like I said I could film loads of graffiti around london, have it flash up in trailers and claim 'my boys' did it, didnt film them doing but gives my video a more street/indecline feel....

I know that the trailer didn't have any live action stuff, but if you scroll UP a little, you can see ryan claiming the video contains live footage. By "video" I don't mean the teaser, I mean like the whole unreleased thing. Since I haven't seen the whole thing, I have no choice but to see ryan as the most reliable source.

I am fully aware of the trailer not containing any live footage, I was just trying to point out that, as a camera man, it is not "cheating" to film a graffiti writer doing his thing, since it is the writer who gets most of the credit anyway.

I dont wanan give any still frames away, also to say alot of the footage is recenet so I dont wanna spoil anything, I think you guys could wait out 9 months when I get shit rollin
but what I can tell you is that ive been working with illadel graffiti supplies for awhile now, so I got plenty of leeds to other artists and people

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt36ATMAxNY


what crew?
there is no crew
have you been to sabotageonline.com lately?



thats just stupid

sorry I quoted it just for that, carry on.

I sit at places and wait for people to do stunts.

is that cheating?

hhaha
could you imaging?
like lurkin in kids backyards and shit looking for kids doing stunts on trampolines?
hahaha


and you know what else is weird?
ive seen dudes lurk at skate spots looking for kids skateboarding, ive seen big older dudes run up to kids trying to film runs on foot without them asking and shit, creepiest thing ever

purely an example.