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Argh I hope it never becomes British style.

If you weren't a mod I'd suggest a poll that has everyone on this forum vote if they would buy your design.

Your lying to yourself if you think that people not into your designs is a good thing lol

If you want to make a good t-shirt I'd highly suggest throwing some loot at mono, seeing as he has his finger firmly to the pulse of the fashion scene. Also if it's good in Europe that means it's gonna be ball'n here, just hasn't caught on yet.

I thought that too rob , but then the manager of a Pacific Sunwear in Columbus, (One of the largest volume stores on the East Coast, dont you know!) said it's cool, so who am I to argue?!?!?!? I will eat this shit up!!!

lolapalooza

You guys are ignorant as fuck. I watch kids come in and buy shit everyday so I know whats in the market, and I know what will make money. The all-over-print in my opinion is bad as fuck. I would prefer to wear that shit all the time, but as of now I don't have the material to produce that stuff because its all put together from one large piece of cloth, or heat pressed, which is expensive as fuck. So as of now, I produce the stuff that these kids like, in which people around here like the stuff I've done, that is what will make money to get a heat press. I don't particularly think the stuff I'm doing is amazing, but others do, and I am not my target audience. Now that I have explained myself to people that don't know anything about the subject, I'll go.

Mate I worked in a clothing store for a year and a half and never saw anything like that. Anything that remotely resembled such confused patterning didn't sell at all.



Then why post in the first place?

This time next year rodders.

This time next year rodders.

lmao @ Luke

Mike, just because people don't like your product doesn't make them ignorant, it makes them consumers.

Because there are people here that are interested in what I'm doing, and want to keep updated on it. Unlike others that just post to post. So I would appreciate less spam in my thread.

EDIT: Ignorant - Lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact.
It is a huge thing around here, and it's a money maker.
What are you guys doing with your lives?

With all do respect.

You sound like a noob that is getting mad were ripping his vids for being gay.

Mike, all I'm saying is you can't really base your whole design on what people around you are saying to be nice. I doubt they know whats "hip" either when you really get down to it.

I have made shirts, I sold all of them because they had FREAK.INC on them and people wanted them. It's not that hard to sell t-shirts to people around you.

If you are going for a mass appeal I'd suggest you stop being shut off, your producing some really generic looking shirts. Nothing that would set you guys apart from another no name company that thinks that kids are so stupid they will buy anything that resembles "edgy".

Go ahead and make your fail company and your fail shirts, I'll be sitting here not buying them along with most of the general population.

Ah ok, expression of dislike is spam.
I dislike it because the pattern is all over the place and it's uglier than Rodney King



I'm at University studying to be a journalist because I accept that reporting more than one version of an incident is more desirable than burying your head in the sand and pretending what is said is what is true.

I also amassed a portfolio of journalism work before University to make sure I was aware of the parameters of field and actually had talent in it.

I've just finished my first year at university studying Media Arts which allows me to apply my qualifications in Design Technology and English Literature in order to produce work which has mass appeal and will also give the a headstart in working for production companies around the country.

I have already produced web pages, logos, t-shirt designs, sticker designs, general graphic designs, a photography portfolio and a video portfolio which, when coupled with my qualifications, will earn me a nice living and comfortable life.

Turn 22 at end of August. Making 40k a year not including bonus. Plenty of room to grow.

Congratulations on your good life.

Back home there's a sewage works about 15 minutes away from me. My mum used to teach the manager's son, and the guy earns 60k. Point being, you can still be on big money but at the end of the day you're still tossing out shit.

But yeah those designs are bad. That's my entitled feedback to this thread.

I will come to Mike's defense here and say that people in our area wear clothes with designs very much like that. Right now, a major influence over kids aged 12-18 (Mike's primary demographic) is mostly Rob and Big (among other MTV shows). I go into work every day and hear story after story about what happened on Rob and Big. Kids wear clothes that Rob wears, DC's profits have been WAY up in the past year.

Now, I realize that the designs Mike is making aren't exactly like those of the DC brand, but they do have many similar characteristics. The main thing is, kids (and most adults) buy clothing based on the name on the clothing. If you don't have a marketable name, you're not going to get your product sold, no matter how good the designs are.

Mike, I suggest working on a variety of designs and concepts, and making your name as appealing as possible, and as recognizable as possible. It's a good name, and the reality is, once you get a set design for your primary logo, and you make it as easily identified as possible, then the other designs will make themselves because you already have the groundwork for the enitre piece based on your logo. Your logo is all the kids will care about, you could rub dogshit on an American Eagle or DC shirt and still run into 50 kids at the mall with the dogshit shirt on.

Your designs are really not as important as everyone on here is making them out to be. The primary logo and brand name are what is going to get you recognized, and your shirts sold. It doesn't hurt to have Rob Dierdek wear them either.

The design is a basic brush pack stamped various different sizes on the shirt!

That's not ingeniuos or inventive, and it doesn't even look good.

At the end of the day the reputation your label gets is based on the quality of the clothes, and the designs as they look now are not enough to boost whatever name you choose to a marketable standpoint.

Agreed, it's not a new design, it's just "what everyone else is wearing" re-packaged in a worse manner. But what would I know, I'm ignorant.

To clarify my statement, I mean if Mike designs a logo that is easily recognized and automatically associated with his product (and a certain level of quality and "coolness") then the designs on his shirts will not matter at all. He could use the brush pack approach and still be a millionaire because it won't matter what's on the shirt, as long as it's from Mike's company.

I'm not saying he's to that point yet, but that's the psychology of consumers, and more specifically, of teenagers. That is the goal, and to get to that point, he has to design a logo and find a name that will get him there.

Most of the new stuff I have been doing are tests. Using these to see what I can do, thickness of lines, and detail. I'm not going to use simple brushes on a shirt. My actual designs will be either hand drawn or done from scratch in PS.

But the point is, the logo and shirts designed aren't anywhere near good enough to stand out and be noticed, to associate them with a new 'cool' company. No MTV celeb will wear them.



Then why ask for opinions on 'tests' then go around calling people ignorant for not liking them? It doesn't make sense at all. Al was right, it's a totally noobish response, expecting people to love your product then getting bent out of shape and resorting to personal jibes (what you doing with your life, your ignorant, mother fucker etc) when people don't say your the dog's nuts.

Yeah but Rob, he's not quite a multi-million dollar clothing retailer yet with such a bland logo and brand name, sort that out mate and you'll be the next Levi Strauss!

Do you take pre orders?!

My point about the logo/name still stands.

Have you seen some of the hideous clothes Aeropastale, AE, AF, and Hollister have come out with? They sell those things at 15 times production cost and kids lick it up like it's amazing.

Reality is, the target market Mike's after doesn't know shit about designs or clothing quality. What they do know is what their friends know and what MTV tells them they should know. Not trying to sound crass, it's just how it works. I'm not saying Mike's designs are the hottest new thing, but I am saying that his designs are comparable to those being showcased by Rob and Big, and being worn by kids in our area.

Closed due to the fact that everyone wants to be negative, but not try to help.

Thanks friends.