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post #1
12 December 2007, 09:15 UTC#1
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TEENAGE criminals will soon be able to escape a court appearance – just by saying sorry.

Children’s minister Beverley Hughes faced fury last night over plans to cut the number of young thugs in court.

Under her “restorative justice” scheme, teen tearaways could escape prosecution by apologising to their victim.

The scheme — part of Labour’s children’s plan — will target youngsters aged ten to 17.



It will give first-time offenders who commit a “minor” crime the chance to explain their actions and say sorry to their victim. Ministers claim court can be “inappropriate” for young offenders.


Ms Hughes said: “Restor-ative justice approach-es are an important and powerful way to divert young people from damaging behaviour.”


She said a scheme in Tyneside cut youth re-offending by 43 per cent.

But the Conservatives accused ministers of letting young thugs off with a slap on the wrist.


Shadow children’s secretary Michael Gove said: “We have a serious problem with rising violence in schools and on the streets.

“The last thing we should be doing is making it easier for young criminals to get away with the harm they do to others.

“We need tough rules on discipline in school and tougher action on street violence. But the Government is going in the wrong direction.”
post #2
12 December 2007, 10:34 UTC#2
that's lame
post #3
12 December 2007, 11:34 UTC#3
haha major lame yes
post #4
12 December 2007, 11:41 UTC#4
I hope its a trick. they say sorry then that counts as them saying they are guilty and throw them in kiddy prison
post #5
12 December 2007, 11:52 UTC#5
Oh lol
post #6
12 December 2007, 13:10 UTC#6
Worked for me.
post #7
12 December 2007, 14:47 UTC#7
Kane set an old woman on fire.

In Harms Way footage! :D
post #8
12 December 2007, 14:49 UTC#8
I think this could work for the younger kids, 10-14. But, for the 14+ offenders, I don't see this being much of a deterrent or punishment.

The younger juveniles will really consider their actions and believe it or not, really thinking about what they did and confronting the person they offended can make a world of difference, especially at that young of an age.

The older fuckups will likely be too headstrong for this method to have any affect on them. They'll go into it already convinced that they're either innocent and half-ass it; or, they'll go into it knowing they'll get off easy and act like they care and are penitent for what they did, when they really don't give a fuck at all.
post #9
12 December 2007, 14:55 UTC#9
You don't know our chavs. lol.
post #10
12 December 2007, 14:56 UTC#10
:biggrin: Yeah, but I do know kids. Humans do have universal qualities.
post #11
12 December 2007, 14:59 UTC#11
Like being narrow minded etc..

Cultural differences exist too. Image file not present in the recovered backup
post #12
12 December 2007, 15:01 UTC#12
o.O WTF?!
post #13
12 December 2007, 15:04 UTC#13
QUOTE(cIRca @ Dec 12 2007, 10:59 AM) [snapback]456396[/snapback]

Like being narrow minded etc..

Cultural differences exist too. Image file not present in the recovered backup


I don't deny the existence of obvious and pronounced cultural differences, especially between the US and UK. However, I do believe that British kids have a conscience. And, I believe that if the program is currently in place, and there has been evidence of the same program working elsewhere, then there has to be a reason for it.
post #14
12 December 2007, 15:11 UTC#14
Thats the reason. It's been proven elseware and they wanna try it in the UK.

Anyone from the UK knows kids here don't have feelings.
post #15
12 December 2007, 15:18 UTC#15
QUOTE(cIRca @ Dec 12 2007, 11:11 AM) [snapback]456409[/snapback]

Thats the reason. It's been proven elseware and they wanna try it in the UK.

Anyone from the UK knows kids here don't have feelings.

:biggrin:
I'll concede that I have never been there, and therefor have no grounds to judge. But, I just want to say that I find that hard to believe.

Keep in mind, I'm talking about the kids 14 and under. I just have faith that they haven't been so defiled by British culture that they don't have feelings.

Also, it's been proven within the UK itself that it works, they're moving it to other parts now.
post #16
12 December 2007, 15:21 UTC#16
When 10 year olds kick an old woman to death and light her on fire it doesn't inspire much faith. But I'm sure it works on some. :)
post #17
12 December 2007, 15:26 UTC#17
QUOTE(cIRca @ Dec 12 2007, 11:21 AM) [snapback]456414[/snapback]

When 10 year olds kick an old woman to death and light her on fire it doesn't inspire much faith. But I'm sure it works on some. :)

And that certainly sounds like a misdemeanor offense to me.

I don't judge the overwhelming majority of 10 year olds to be heartless based on the horrible actions of a minute select few. Now who's being narrow-minded?
post #18
12 December 2007, 15:28 UTC#18
I want to bring some gangsters from the US to the UK and have them fight it out.
post #19
12 December 2007, 15:31 UTC#19
I dunno, the Chavs sound like they're the worst people on Earth. I doubt America's gangsters would stand a chance. Certainly, we Americans have never witnessed anyone or anything as deplorable as a Chav.
post #20
12 December 2007, 15:33 UTC#20
QUOTE(Ray @ Dec 12 2007, 12:31 PM) [snapback]456421[/snapback]

I dunno, the Chavs sound like they're the worst people on Earth. I doubt America's gangsters would stand a chance. Certainly, we Americans have never witnessed anyone or anything as deplorable as a Chav.


I wonder if like a gangster from the US came over and sucker punched a Chav if they would be like "No fair mate, you didn't even call me a gobbly gusher yet".
post #21
12 December 2007, 15:35 UTC#21
QUOTE(Funk Master Steven @ Dec 12 2007, 11:33 AM) [snapback]456422[/snapback]

QUOTE(Ray @ Dec 12 2007, 12:31 PM) [snapback]456421[/snapback]

I dunno, the Chavs sound like they're the worst people on Earth. I doubt America's gangsters would stand a chance. Certainly, we Americans have never witnessed anyone or anything as deplorable as a Chav.


I wonder if like a gangster from the US came over and sucker punched a Chav if they would be like "No fair mate, you didn't even call me a gobbly gusher yet".

We best pipe down now. They're going to whip out the flags.
post #22
12 December 2007, 15:35 UTC#22
QUOTE(Ray @ Dec 12 2007, 04:26 PM) [snapback]456416[/snapback]

QUOTE(cIRca @ Dec 12 2007, 11:21 AM) [snapback]456414[/snapback]

When 10 year olds kick an old woman to death and light her on fire it doesn't inspire much faith. But I'm sure it works on some. :)

And that certainly sounds like a misdemeanor offense to me.

I don't judge the overwhelming majority of 10 year olds to be heartless based on the horrible actions of a minute select few. Now who's being narrow-minded?

I'm referring to the chavs of the UK. You're not listening.

I dont care about the kids who steal sweets and scratch their name into a desk. Those are the kids YOU deal with.

Yup. I know this, because Tyler knows this.
post #23
12 December 2007, 15:37 UTC#23
Chavs are funny as fuck.
post #24
12 December 2007, 15:37 UTC#24
QUOTE(cIRca @ Dec 12 2007, 11:35 AM) [snapback]456425[/snapback]

QUOTE(Ray @ Dec 12 2007, 04:26 PM) [snapback]456416[/snapback]

QUOTE(cIRca @ Dec 12 2007, 11:21 AM) [snapback]456414[/snapback]

When 10 year olds kick an old woman to death and light her on fire it doesn't inspire much faith. But I'm sure it works on some. :)

And that certainly sounds like a misdemeanor offense to me.

I don't judge the overwhelming majority of 10 year olds to be heartless based on the horrible actions of a minute select few. Now who's being narrow-minded?

I'm referring to the chavs of the UK. You're not listening.

I dont care about the kids who steal sweets and scratch their name into a desk. Those are the kids YOU deal with.

Yup. I know this, because Tyler knows this.

Sorry for misunderstanding you, Tom.

Also, don't try to describe to me the kinds of kids I deal with. You have no idea.
post #25
12 December 2007, 15:38 UTC#25
QUOTE(cIRca @ Dec 12 2007, 12:35 PM) [snapback]456425[/snapback]

Yup. I know this, because Tyler knows this.


Post of year.
post #26
12 December 2007, 16:00 UTC#26
I hate how chavs just get off the hook with all the bullshit they cause wherever they live.

Bah.
post #27
12 December 2007, 17:11 UTC#27
QUOTE(Kane @ Dec 12 2007, 04:37 PM) [snapback]456427[/snapback]

Chavs are funny as fuck.



true... lol

I realy wish I had my camera for an incident the other day regarding me and a chav..
story goes:

I was talking to my mate outside his shoe shop (inside a shopping mall)

sitting on the chair having a chat with him I let a fart go

he gets up screaming arrggh you dirty cunt, fuckin farting

then some chav fuck sits down and proceeds t try on shoes, whilst eating a bacon roll

anyways ash (my mate) is still going on with his baz is farting schtick

then the convo between me and the chav happens:

chav: er mate what the fuck you dirty cunt, farting, cant you see im trying to eat
me: then fuckin eat
chav: fucking dirty bastard shitting all over the place
me: well it was hardly shitting, you dumb cunt
chav: calling me a cunt?
me: yeah.. yeah I am
chav: wanna go some do ya?
me: go where? what?
chav: I can knock your fuckin jaw off!
me: no doubt you could (at this point im trying not to lol hard in his face)
chav: I could knock you out if I wanted to
me: well theres an awfull lot of talk here, and if you realy wanted too you'd have done it by now
chav: saucy cunt aint ya?
me: yeah I agree
chav: I came here to try on shoes
me: then try them on then
chav dirty mumble mumble mumble (couldnt understand what he said here lol and by this point he was wealking off)
me: see you later princess

anyways he walks past five mins later mumbling then his mate says :
eraghh meem aggin mehon

and I shouted back what the fuck

anyways back on topic:
saying sorry aint gonna help a lot of these lil shits out there, if anything it'll make some of them worse and thus they know they can get away with it via using hollow words

my idea is simple:
get all the little cunts together in a detention centre, then once a week take out fifty of them and place them on an island, then they could fight it out battle royale style for their right to be a citizen

to make it even better it could be shown on tv, and if they realy wanted to spice it up a bit they could mix in big time criminals, murderers and scum :biggrin:
post #28
12 December 2007, 18:31 UTC#28
Good news for LNDL then I see. lol

Anyway jokes aside, I heard this on the radio this morning on the way to college and I think its ridiculous, If anything it'll probably make them worse cos they know they can get away with it.
post #29
12 December 2007, 18:36 UTC#29
I say send them to Australia, worked with our degenerates years ago...
post #30
12 December 2007, 18:42 UTC#30
why not have the meet up in london and go chav hunting