Giving Footage A Cinematic Look

I was wondering if any of you guys have some tips on giving footage a cinematic look, or any resources for plugins. I've looked around on the net a little at school today but not much. I'm working with Premiere 6.5 by the way and may have access to Pro 1.5 soon.

I know you can adjust the brightness and contrast among other things to give it that look. I've seen some clips from Retardz and Human Maybe that really captured the look.

I'm looking into starting to film short films of sorts that I'd like to give a real serious tone and feel. Any help would be appreciated. Image file not present in the recovered backup

If I had the cash I'd love a Panasonic DVX100. The local news was at my school earlier and they were wielding one. Walking by it made me happy down below.

Why was the news at Tuckerman?

Some guy that graduated in 1996 from here died in Iraq recently and we had an assembly.

good thread as I am also curious on this

Solution #1. Have a nice enough camera.

Solution #2. Know how to edit video.

Solution #3. Have After Effects

Okay, I don't really have a clue how to edit anything at all. But, if I were to take a stab in the dark, that'd be it.

24p! As far as I understand, this is the feature that gives the overall cinematic look. I believe the VX has the feature, don't quote me on that though.

I know when I was doing reviews and etc. before buying my DVC30, many said the only downside was that it didn't have 24p, but I didn't really worry because at the time I had no intention of filming anything other than action sports and lifestyle shit.

Have you searched 24p and the VX? If not, I'd try that out. Hope this helps?

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not really sure if this help but I remember dex saying in his videos he used a magic bullet (think thats what it was called) on his videos

making the camera pan forwards, upwards, or around an object makes a video look very cinematic

either find a copy of magic bullet or save up and buy magic bullet as it's fucking brilliant!

Is it an editing program? plugin? what???

yeah my firend film these in 24p www.youtube.com/executivedick the 2 short films

vx2000 and I beleive 2100 do not shoot 24p

care to explain?

make sure when your filming just to get a good eye for angles and where the sun/light sorse is and film accordingly it makes it look better

some very cool plugins.

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thanks I will have to check it out.

o and I forgot I had this saved on my internet from a year or 2 back, this might help

http://www.stormforcepictures.com/howto-getthatfilmlook.php

I've tried a version that was posted on here and couldn't figure out how to use it with Premiere 6.5. It may not be compatible.

I just need to do some looking around though. As for having a good cam, I've got a VX 2100 so that shouldn't be a problem.

This was shot on a 2100 and it looks very cinematic - http://youtube.com/watch?v=ACqir67tjjE

Is it for premiere?

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24p is just referring to progressive scan.

the vx2100 does have its own version (the sony version) of progressive scan, but its not great. All this does is makes it look like you have a slightly lower shutter speed. At first you will see this and wonder why anyone wud film with it, but after a while your eyes becomes custom to it and it looks more like film, and the reason everyone likes the look of film of the frame rate, its more similar to the amount of images we process each second thats why we like the look of it, when in actual fact digital stuff captures more images but more than our eyes do so it looks worse. Hence why if you de-interlace something it looks better.



Anyway back to the point I was going to make.

Quite simple. If you want something to look cinematic you have to film it cinematic. And a good way to make something look cinematic is getting as much depth of feild as possible. So obviously the better the camera/lense the better depth of field.

But in simple terms. Film from as far away as possible and zoom all the way in and manually focus on your subject matter, this will give a greater depth of field and hopefully cause the background to be blurry but the subject matter nice and crisp in focus.


So basically, film in cinematically, and when it comes to editing, download a decent de-interlacer and magic bullet.

And Premiere!!

I'd love to get my hands on it. The outcome is amazing. I've got a version on my computer but it only works for After Effects.

It says it works with premiere pro, I can hook you up with 1.5.

That plugin thing Ray upped is good, but you can get the same result by just adjusting color levels, contrast and brightness, as the plugin just contains a lot of presets. The most important thing though is that you film whatever you wanna film decently and with thought of how real movies look like and then you try to do the same.

But now that I see Dex's and everyone else's pro comments on the subject, I don't think this really helps you a lot but at least it gave me another post

Just tighten up the widescreen frame.

Sorted.

If you have one of the better cameras, film in 24p. That basically means it shows 24 digital stills in one second. Film shows 24 photos in one second. So 24p gets near of the basic principle.

When you shoot "normal" video it makes every frame from two fields that are taken in different time. Then they are shown interlaced. In crt tv this looks good because its ment to be that way. Thats also the reason when you sometimes get lines to clips you watch from your computers screen (this can be fixed by deinterlacing, making one "still picture" out of the two fields).

Showing 24p in crt-tv is supposed to be flickery. But nowdays we are moving on to lcd and plasma so it shouldnt be problem after few years.

Another important factor is lightning. Specíally when you own consumer camera. Using the light right way makes pic difference to feel of the footage and picture quality. Learn basic principles; light is often better when reflected from something, not spotted directly at object; way of using few lights etc. Then get a good videolight and some construction site spots from nearest hardware store. There you go, cheap scene setting.

Here is a good site about lightning: http://www.efplighting.com/?Lighting_skills_equal_success

And on post production mess with colors, contrast and brightness. That magic bullet plugin is supposed to be good for presets for film like adjustments. Basically film looks more plain than video that has over saturated colors.

Shallow depth of field is also very cinematic. Cant be assed to explain the effect so here is two pictures of it.

Shallow depth of field
http://www.seemsartless.com/guides/camera-...rs-fast-360.jpg

Greater depth of field
http://www.seemsartless.com/guides/camera-...rs-slow-360.jpg

Most of the footage shot with consumer cameras have great depth of field that is not very cinematic. Answer is bigger and better camera, or 35mm adapter for consumer camera. Either way its expensive as shit.

The zooming and focusing process dex mentioned is ghetto way to do it, and works. But you cant apply it for every shot.

Sounds good. I have a copy I lent to Nick, but I have no clue where it is now. I tried to borrow the disk from my computer teacher yesterday then she started talking about how it was $700 and all.

I would appreciate the hook up.