03 October 2006, 00:54 UTC#42
....wow....
I have no idea where your anger is comming from, I mean deny it, but your first post was definatly anger filled....
It seems then you have gotten calmer, but still trying to defend your earlier post.
We have been filming dumb stuff since 1996...we have seen tons of our clips stolen by tv shows. So when we get a chance to take all the stuff we have been doing and show it to a much larger audiance, were fucking stupid for doing so?
I really fail to see your point of view.
Let me key you in to a little personal story here, maybe it will help you understand more and become less angry with us. Might be a nice story for other groups to hear as well....
Im 23, I have firmly decided that I cannot have a normal job, belive me, ive tried. I worked in a paper mill, ive worked in a shipping dept, ive been a videogame tester, I tried to live of of pro wrestling, ive tired many a thing.....the only thing that makes me happy, that I could see myself do for a living, is these videos, I love editing video, I love promoting like a mother fucker for all these things we film.
Im comming to a major point in my life where its time to find a job and make a carrer out of it.
My father hates his job, when he comes home, he is so bitter about it, that he turned to drinking, which my mom did as well, so they now hate each other.....so, my dad hates most his life....He doesnt live with us anymore, but when I do hang out with him, all he can do is bitch how much his life sucks....
Do I want that? Is that what I want to be?
Fuck no.
So I have found something, that I love, and that after many a years of hard work, We have something worth showing. We did it, and were damn happy about it.
I have no idea about your background, but I have car bills, cable bills, phone bills, ect. Sadly, in this world, money is a neccesaty to live, so I keep working the jobs I despise, so that I may have a place to come home to, so I can take my girlfriend out, and so that I may have the money to buy our dv tapes, the upgrades to my computer, and all the other shit we need to make me happy.
I work from 1pm to 10pm, spend time with the gf, then from midnight to 5 am, im doing something for no mercy video.
So....chances are good now that we are getting a show...does that mean I finally get a fucking break? Does that mean I can now do the performing and now the world gets to see what we are cappable of?
Its looking that way.
You mentioned before that we are sell outs....lets go through the list of why you might think that?
1. We might be getting a show
Ive talked about this a bunch in the paragraphs above...however, This show will also give us the chance to help out our fellow homegrown friends in the process, give them some spotlight to show their talents and drive more viewers to their websites.
2.We have a videogame in the works
This is true...being a playable character in a videogame is one of my life goals.....guess who is making this game?
Me......thats it....little ole me....If teaching myself coding and all this = selling out...then shit...this world is a crazy place.
3. Our shit appearing on tv.
Oh no we make money so we must be selling out.
Here is the truth to our tv appearances,
A. most of em are stolen, they take clips from other websites and air them without consent, so not only do we not get any money, but no promotion.
or
B. We sell the license to our clips, we have a sliding scale for our clips, the more promotion we get, the less we charge for the clip. Most shows legally cannot say your website. Usually the best you can get is your name on the credits.
3. We save lots of footage for a dvd release
Want to know how much footage we have saved? ...maybe 5 minutes worth? We have a skit where charles gets beer bottle thrown at the beer bottles tapped to his back....why is it saved? lighting kinda sucks...never really wanted to release it. The other being the fight we had at the jackass rockshow, and thats for legal reasons.
Im sorry im ranting like a mother fucker, I just see no reason why you would think that. I felt a little background would help.
I am a firm belive of judge not least ye be judged....
I cant judge you on your videos as I sadly have not seen your guys's stuff, if someone were to send me a link I will check it out, and if you guys are over 18 and want to be thrown in for a chance to be on our show, give me your info.
I can however judge your posts in this thread.
Your first post was an attempt to start a fight, plain and simple.
Posts after that have you changing your story, swtichting stuff, changing "facts" to opinions
You claim to know the homegrown scene, A scene I was involved with well before there was a name for it.
You claim we are overrated, thats a matter of opinion, All I know is we have alot of fans and new ones contacting us all the time, every day I get messages saying "how much we rock" and all these other nice reminders that people enjoy what we do.....every now and then we get messages from 12 year olds saying how they busted a lightube over thier friends head and screamed no mercy after it....which is a cause for concern.....but thats another issue.
It seems you fear that if our success keeps going that we may start acting shit out ala viva la bam. I can assure you that we will always stick to our roots.
Some here know that we had a dvd set to go with XEG, we would have made a good amount of money from it, had out dvd in stores all over the place and who knows what else, but we cancelled the deal because they wanted to put a bunch of naked chicks in the dvd. We turned down the money and publicity to stick to our roots.
Lastly, Thank you for being a fan, hope we dont dissapoint.
p.s. Let the HGV and HGF fighting stop, its stupid as hell, both sites have their purposes and there is no need to bitch about it.
I am a firm belive of homgrown unity, no need to fight, lets help each other.....thats how it used to be back at ckf