29 August 2006, 19:53 UTC#1
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Parents seek answers over son's death
Aug 26, 2006
The parents of 17-year-old Liam Ashley, who was beaten to death en route to prison, say they were the ones who charged him with theft.
Ashley was found badly beaten in the back of a Chubb Security van on Thursday night. Although he was revived by paramedics at the scene, he died on Friday.
Ashley's family say his parents wanted to teach him a lesson about the consequences of breaking the law. He had taken his mother's car without permission so they had him charged him with theft.
On Thursday Ashley appeared at the North Shore District Court. The judge offered him bail but his parents chose to send him to prison as a deterrent.
But on the trip to Auckland Central Remand prison, he was believed to have been strangled and assaulted by two others in the van.
Ashley's family have issued a statement listing 10 questions they want answered, such as why was a 17-year-old with no history of serious crime or violence was transported unattended with more serious offenders?
Head of Public Prisons Harry Hawthorne says that "best practice would be that young prisoners should be separated from older prisoners. That may not always be possible."
Chubb Security says it is investigating the incident but will not comment further.
Police, the Department of Corrections and Chubb Security are all running separate investigations but no arrests have yet been made.
Lesson learnt there :/
(I know he wasn't killed in jail, but I couldn't fit it in the title quite as it happened.)
29 August 2006, 19:55 UTC#2
parents of the mother fucking year right there.
29 August 2006, 19:58 UTC#3
Damn, ain't that some shit.
29 August 2006, 19:59 UTC#4
Jesus fucking christ, those parents would feel guilty as shit for the rest of their lives.
29 August 2006, 20:07 UTC#5
I think the parents were the ones with the real problems... not the kid.
29 August 2006, 20:12 UTC#6
QUOTE(gman @ Aug 29 2006, 08:59 PM) [snapback]377353[/snapback]
Jesus fucking christ, those parents would feel guilty as shit for the rest of their lives.
No way, those fuckers are blaming the prison system.
PRISON IS FUCKING TOUGH
They obviously though it wasn't, or they didn't know that it isn't all fucking hype.
29 August 2006, 20:44 UTC#7
QUOTE(gman @ Aug 29 2006, 08:59 PM) [snapback]377353[/snapback]
Jesus fucking christ, those parents would feel guilty as shit for the rest of their lives.
29 August 2006, 20:57 UTC#8
QUOTE(Funk Master Steven @ Aug 29 2006, 10:12 PM) [snapback]377368[/snapback]
QUOTE(gman @ Aug 29 2006, 08:59 PM) [snapback]377353[/snapback]
Jesus fucking christ, those parents would feel guilty as shit for the rest of their lives.
No way, those fuckers are blaming the prison system.
PRISON IS FUCKING TOUGH
They obviously though it wasn't, or they didn't know that it isn't all fucking hype.
Prison probably is tough, but you shouldn't expect to be strangled.
It's not the parents fault, it's the guys that murdered him. It was an unforseeable event, and the fact that they charged him doesn't change that, although they will feel fucking guilty.
29 August 2006, 20:59 UTC#9
QUOTE(Joe. @ Aug 29 2006, 03:57 PM) [snapback]377403[/snapback]
QUOTE(Funk Master Steven @ Aug 29 2006, 10:12 PM) [snapback]377368[/snapback]
QUOTE(gman @ Aug 29 2006, 08:59 PM) [snapback]377353[/snapback]
Jesus fucking christ, those parents would feel guilty as shit for the rest of their lives.
No way, those fuckers are blaming the prison system.
PRISON IS FUCKING TOUGH
They obviously though it wasn't, or they didn't know that it isn't all fucking hype.
Prison probably is tough, but you shouldn't expect to be strangled.
It's not the parents fault, it's the guys that murdered him. It was an unforseeable event, and the fact that they charged him doesn't change that, although they will feel fucking guilty.
They knew the risk, I agree with FMS
29 August 2006, 21:01 UTC#10
QUOTE(Nuggeto @ Aug 29 2006, 10:59 PM) [snapback]377404[/snapback]
QUOTE(Joe. @ Aug 29 2006, 03:57 PM) [snapback]377403[/snapback]
QUOTE(Funk Master Steven @ Aug 29 2006, 10:12 PM) [snapback]377368[/snapback]
QUOTE(gman @ Aug 29 2006, 08:59 PM) [snapback]377353[/snapback]
Jesus fucking christ, those parents would feel guilty as shit for the rest of their lives.
No way, those fuckers are blaming the prison system.
PRISON IS FUCKING TOUGH
They obviously though it wasn't, or they didn't know that it isn't all fucking hype.
Prison probably is tough, but you shouldn't expect to be strangled.
It's not the parents fault, it's the guys that murdered him. It was an unforseeable event, and the fact that they charged him doesn't change that, although they will feel fucking guilty.
They knew the risk, I agree with FMS
That is what the parents are gettin at, even though prison is not meant to be a laugh, there should be no risk of death, he was a minor and it was his first offence.
29 August 2006, 21:03 UTC#11
Holy fucking shit, that sucks.
29 August 2006, 21:05 UTC#12
QUOTE(Joe. @ Aug 29 2006, 09:57 PM) [snapback]377403[/snapback]
QUOTE(Funk Master Steven @ Aug 29 2006, 10:12 PM) [snapback]377368[/snapback]
QUOTE(gman @ Aug 29 2006, 08:59 PM) [snapback]377353[/snapback]
Jesus fucking christ, those parents would feel guilty as shit for the rest of their lives.
No way, those fuckers are blaming the prison system.
PRISON IS FUCKING TOUGH
They obviously though it wasn't, or they didn't know that it isn't all fucking hype.
Prison probably is tough, but you shouldn't expect to be strangled.
It's not the parents fault, it's the guys that murdered him. It was an unforseeable event, and the fact that they charged him doesn't change that, although they will feel fucking guilty.
Dude it was totally forseeable, there are mad gangs in jail, the kid never had an offense before, that means he has never hung out with those people before odds are. He probably was smarting off expecting the police officer in the van to break up the fight and got strangled to death.
30 August 2006, 02:11 UTC#13
what kind of sick parents do that to try and teach a lesson.
30 August 2006, 09:19 UTC#14
This happened in New Zealand. It's been on the news for a while. Everyone was, lets say, outraged.
30 August 2006, 09:21 UTC#15
They fucking deserve to live with themselves after what they did. Fucking assholes.
30 August 2006, 09:34 UTC#16
That is fucked up stupid parents
30 August 2006, 10:36 UTC#17
QUOTE(gman @ Aug 29 2006, 09:59 PM) [snapback]377353[/snapback]
Jesus fucking christ, those parents would feel guilty as shit for the rest of their lives.
Its clear to me that the parents payed to have him killed, maybe it was a realy nice car, id kill the son of a bitch myself..

30 August 2006, 13:34 UTC#18
yeah Dan is back!
In a way it was good that the son died. He had bad genes.
30 August 2006, 20:33 UTC#19
QUOTE(gman @ Aug 29 2006, 09:59 PM) [snapback]377353[/snapback]
Jesus fucking christ, those parents would feel guilty as shit for the rest of their lives.