Is indexing for Desktop Search, OverKill?

All my textual data from the last 10 years, is just 70 Megabytes.
A non indexing application can search that in just over 4 seconds.

The net search Co's have trotted out their indexed searches
which are complex database monstrosities designed for millions
of times, that amount of data.

A lifetimes reading, can fit on a DVD (4.7 Gig)
It would be silly, to archive and search info, you have never read.

Shut the fuck up.

Again you? talking about things nobody understand?

I think this guys comes from the future.

You Homegrowners are a touchy lot.

ssssssh

Yeah! now you can shut the fuck up.

Dude, at least explain what the fuck you are talking about....

Everytime we ask you to, you never reply.

I'm so confused, I don't know if it's spam or not!

Maybe so, but HGF's textual data is in excess of 200MB (simply counting the posts). We have around 350k posts, right? That's a drop in the ocean. So what are you trying to imply? That google should try fit their index on a couple of DVD's?

And what on earth is your obsession with "desktop search" ??

Talking about Indexed Vs unindexed Desktop Search

When searching, it is ALWAYS the context, that I am looking for.
When finding a friend's name, it may be a birthday, phone number,
date of last contact or a number of other bits of information,
that I'm interested in. With indexes, useful nearby information
is often obliterated.

Ok, now explain it.

dam ppl being so smart

Interesting figures for a forum. 200MB
That's definitely more than the average user would have.
Unindexed search can show you the data, in context much
faster and with more pizzazz.

Do you know how to cure cancer with Unindexed search?

Why do like, limit your paragraphs width?

Anyways, you sound smart, if I actually knew what you where talking about I'd say you'd be a good hand around here.

I always kept my notes like that. They were mostly for me
and 1 thought at a time is enough. I'm not writing a book.
Just making a comment / note.

Not all that smart. Programming isn't rocket science.
I know one thing for sure. I could show you all a bit about
documentation, notes, screen captures, flowcharts etc.

Now with video it's even easier to show up the indexing searches.

I dunno what the fuck u just said

Sounds like you're trying to analyze and speculate figures rather than dissect programming concepts here.

Non indexed data, or rather desktop data is usually faster to access as it is accessed at local speeds. Indexed data, such as this forums database can be just as fast to access locally. Basically, all indexing implies is placing data in a storage engine, no reason for it to be slower unless you're accessing it from a slower medium. Hell, it can even be faster as stored data is cached data.

Moving on, the stats for the size of the posts table of this forum seems fairly logical rather than interesting, it'd take you a lot longer than 10 years to try attempt to replicate the amount of textual data stored in the database. The text files on your computer are more likely to comprise of syntax, syntax doesn't use many lines even in a complicated application. However, a dynamic application consistently grows in size when it has to store user submitted data.

Quite logical.

WTF is wrong with this guy.

Haha his posts are so fucking good.

lol is all I can say to this dude.

wtf!

Alright my friend. I got most of that. But lets take it a step at a time.

Wtf is an indexing search? Not only that, but a desktop search?

Answer us these, and I'm sure you'll get a lot less "Shut the fuck up"s around here.

With a good Desktop Search you'll be in the know. Not the dunno state.

Indexing search uses a database to find the search data.
then it points you to the originating files.

This non indexing search reads sequentially through the text
displaying matches in context and on the fly. Hi-lited and any font size.

Again indexing desktop searches are slow at providing the hits in context.

Desktop search allows me to keep and share all my email, pictures,
screen captures, notes, video & music.

A good desktop search should have a notepad capability too.

I know something else that helps you keep up with pictures and videos and the lot. it's called a cd burner.

with a cd burner you can put files on a 700mb cd, it uses a writing technique that's fast depending on the write speed, I have a 24x.

a good cd burner should be reliable. it's silly I know.

I am now so confused that I've given myself a headache, thanks.

oh oh thats a good idea.. I my self use a dvd burner.. because thats all I have.

There is a European Hooded Crow here in North America.
In my backyard, stealing the bread and butter I put out.

Can't seem to get any interest from the local media on this
oddity. Being able to follow one crows activities is inciteful.

The foreigner is larger, bossy and very very cautious.
Travels with Magpies more than any crow I've seen to.

see some of him through a spotting scope and my camcorder
on full zoom.

http://www.dropshots.com/jusjus/

Indexed search is OverKill, most people have far less data than I do.

All your posts (this one is 1000 Chrs) * 13908 is 14,000,000 characters
that is searched in under a second. Without an index.

Another problem with indexed data is that it constantly has to be updated. So yes, I do agree indexed desktop search is an overkill. I however am happy with my Windows XP search function, searching notepad documents doesn't bother me although could be usefull.

Out of interest, why do you love desktop search so much?

There are so many programming concepts that are far more interesting than indexed or un-indexed data. Although I did enjoy reading your analysis, I'd like to see more of your views as I believe you've posted a similar topic to this before.

There are a few other problems with indexed search. Besides the indexing process.
-Do they find all the data? I know this one does. Indexers have a file size limit ranging
from 2M to 80M.
-Poor context display.

Why I love desktop search. It's the only program anybody really needs.

Programming has always been about Extract, Sort and Report.