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post #1
04 June 2006, 09:21 UTC#1
Uh oh...

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London - British police were frantically searching on Sunday for evidence of what security sources fear is a plot to unleash sarin nerve gas or another deadly agent.

However two British men arrested at their home in a related dawn raid on Friday, one of whom is recovering from a gunshot wound in a London hospital, vehemently denied any involvement in terrorism.

Their neighbours in east London defended the brothers, whom they described as devout Muslims from an ethnic Bangladeshi family, and accused London's Metropolitan Police of heavy-handed tactics against the Muslim community.

The police said they extended their search from the home of the suspects to their London workplaces, which press reports said were the Royal Mail postal service and a Tesco supermarket.

However police have released few details about the suspects and declined to comment on news reports that experts were searching for evidence of chemical or biological weapons.

Police and the security services told The Sunday Telegraph that they were hunting for a device capable of releasing sarin in an outrage similar to the one that killed 12 people and affected more than 5 000 on the Tokyo subway in 1995.

The Sunday Express said police were hunting for a device that could release either the chemical agent sarin or the deadly biological agent anthrax, with police chiefs revealing it is believed to "be primed and ready to go".

The Sunday Telegraph said MI5 domestic intelligence agents suspect that al-Qaeda sympathisers intended to produce a nerve agent - probably sarin - and release it in a closed space such as in an underground train.

Metropolitan Police sources meanwhile told The Sunday Times that "specific intelligence" that had led to Friday's raid suggested that a single bomb overlaid with cyanide was being prepared at the targeted home.

Senior police sources said they were searching for an "improvised device rather than a sophisticated weapon" capable of releasing chemicals, according to the newspaper.

The plot would be timed to be on or close to anniversary of the suicide bombings on the London transport system that killed 56 people, including the four bombers, on July 7 last year.

However, police have said there was no direct link between the suicide attacks last year and the raid they conducted on Friday.

The Sun newspaper said there was no intelligence about a definite target, but police worried about a possible attack on a subway train or bars showing televised matches from the World Cup beginning Friday in Germany.

Peter Clarke, head of the London Metropolitan Police force's anti-terrorist branch, said the police acted on intelligence which "demanded an intensive investigation and response" following weeks of surveillance.

"We planned an operation that was designed to mitigate any threat to the public either from firearms or from any hazardous substances."

Clarke said officers were conducting a thorough investigation to prove or disprove the "specific intelligence" which prompted the raid.

Lawyers said their clients Mohammed Abdul Kahar, 23 and Abul Koyair, 20, insisted they were innocent following their arrests under the Terrorism Act.

Kate Roxburgh, representing Kahar, who was recovering under police guard in a London hospital, said "he absolutely denies any involvement in any terrorist activity."

Kahar, she added, was traumatised after rushing out of bed upon hearing screams from downstairs and was now suffering a lot of pain after being shot in the chest. Some newspapers had said he was shot in the shoulder.

He also claimed that police had shot him without warning and without being threatened in any way, Roxburgh said.

Meanwhile, members of a family who live in a property adjoining the home of the suspects said Saturday that the brothers were abused by British police who detained them in the raid.

The Independent Police Complaints Commission said Friday it had launched an investigation into the shooting of the elder man.

British police were heavily criticized for shooting dead an innocent Brazilian on a subway train in London last July as part of an anti-terrorist operation mounted in the aftermath of the attempted bombings.

Security sources told News of the World that the suspect was shot in the shoulder when his younger brother grabbed a police officer's gun and pulled the trigger during the struggle.

Leaflets circulating in east London call for a meeting next week to discuss the raid against the backdrop of what they say is a tendency by the government to make Muslims "scapegoats" for its failed policies in Iraq and Afghanistan.


Source: http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,...1945168,00.html
post #2
04 June 2006, 09:27 UTC#2
I dont know if thats near where you live or not, but I'll set up a sleeping bag for you just in case. There's always extra room at Weak's apartment and its terrorist proof :wink:
post #3
04 June 2006, 09:30 UTC#3
Well nah, I'd be fine. Im 50 miles south of london. But still, a terrorist proof slumber party sounds great!!!!
post #4
04 June 2006, 09:39 UTC#4
I'm under 12 miles from the centre of London, making me genuinly fucked if even half a nucleur device is detonated. So Weak, I might need to bagsy that sleepingbag if things start looking rough around here. :biggrin:


Just something to allieviate/build panic: There has been a constant threat of chemical terrorism on London for almost 20 years, after the USSR got fucked up and its scientists started selling uranium and plutonium to anyone and everyone. In the early 90s, everyone thought London was gonna be chemically buggered by the IRA. So this threat is nothing new.

Let's all take comfort in the fact that the Met can and will shoot anyone suspicious, guilty or not. :biggrin:
post #5
04 June 2006, 09:53 UTC#5
You would be fine if the device they are talking about here gets set off rob, it wouldnt be too wide spread.

But yeh in a necleur explosion u would be fucked, how far do nukes spread? Would I be alright? lol
post #6
04 June 2006, 09:57 UTC#6
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edit: I got training for this in the army..

Skipper, you'd be ok. 10km is the danger zone for hazardous chemicals. A nuke however could spread it out a little though :)

Now that I got into the army stuff, here's the bomb suit you'd be wearing if you were to go defuse a bomb. It even has it's own air conditioner built in it. Heavy as hell to wear :)

(that's me wearing it)
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post #7
04 June 2006, 10:40 UTC#7
QUOTE(Skipper @ Jun 4 2006, 09:53 AM) [snapback]341656[/snapback]

But yeh in a necleur explosion u would be fucked, how far do nukes spread? Would I be alright? lol

Anything within 4 miles is obliterated, and anything within 200 miles will suffer some degree of radiation poisoning, depending on how close you are to the blast.
post #8
04 June 2006, 10:42 UTC#8
QUOTE(pattyt18 @ Jun 4 2006, 11:40 AM) [snapback]341669[/snapback]

QUOTE(Skipper @ Jun 4 2006, 09:53 AM) [snapback]341656[/snapback]

But yeh in a necleur explosion u would be fucked, how far do nukes spread? Would I be alright? lol

Anything within 4 miles is obliterated, and anything within 200 miles will suffer some degree of radiation poisoning, depending on how close you are to the blast.


200!??!?

Ah crap, I'd be fucked!!!


Lets pretend u meant 20, and then im fine.
post #9
04 June 2006, 10:59 UTC#9
QUOTE(Skipper @ Jun 4 2006, 10:42 AM) [snapback]341670[/snapback]

QUOTE(pattyt18 @ Jun 4 2006, 11:40 AM) [snapback]341669[/snapback]

QUOTE(Skipper @ Jun 4 2006, 09:53 AM) [snapback]341656[/snapback]

But yeh in a necleur explosion u would be fucked, how far do nukes spread? Would I be alright? lol

Anything within 4 miles is obliterated, and anything within 200 miles will suffer some degree of radiation poisoning, depending on how close you are to the blast.


200!??!?

Ah crap, I'd be fucked!!!


Lets pretend u meant 20, and then im fine.

Pray the wind is blowing north :wink:

Then the midlands will get all the fallout Image file not present in the recovered backup
post #10
04 June 2006, 12:57 UTC#10
screw you I live in the north :P
post #11
04 June 2006, 12:58 UTC#11
QUOTE(iammarcmason @ Jun 4 2006, 01:57 PM) [snapback]341716[/snapback]

screw you I live in the north :P


It's you or me mate, and I think the generall consuensus is we save thoese who have more too offer the world ya know?

:P
post #12
04 June 2006, 13:04 UTC#12
QUOTE(Skipper @ Jun 4 2006, 02:58 PM) [snapback]341717[/snapback]

QUOTE(iammarcmason @ Jun 4 2006, 01:57 PM) [snapback]341716[/snapback]

screw you I live in the north :P


It's you or me mate, and I think the generall consuensus is we save thoese who have more too offer the world ya know?

:P

so me then....

:P
post #13
04 June 2006, 13:07 UTC#13
QUOTE(iammarcmason @ Jun 4 2006, 02:04 PM) [snapback]341718[/snapback]

QUOTE(Skipper @ Jun 4 2006, 02:58 PM) [snapback]341717[/snapback]

QUOTE(iammarcmason @ Jun 4 2006, 01:57 PM) [snapback]341716[/snapback]

screw you I live in the north :P


It's you or me mate, and I think the generall consuensus is we save thoese who have more too offer the world ya know?

:P

so me then....

:P


Your naivety is just another thing to add to the list of reasons why its me over you.

:D
post #14
04 June 2006, 13:16 UTC#14
Wouldn't it be funny if...like, the bomb went off, but they made it wrong, and the gas was like RAID bugspray but it only worked on pakis and illegal immigrants and terrorists (of course) and they all got gassed and died?

Wouldn't that be funny?