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stoopid
post #1
14 January 2006, 23:17 UTC#1
ok, well a couple of nights ago I was hanging out with a couple of friends and one of my friends did some graffiti (3 buildings, 4 cars [one being a mail truck]), I didnt do any of the graffiti nor was I encouraging him to, but I was there with him, and I did record him doing the buildings.....well the cops came and took my camera and stuff and are going to be mailing us with information on the court date and everything....only one of my friends did any graffiti and he has admitted to it...

my question is...in the u.s how much trouble can I get into for this and am I going to have to help pay the damages?

thanks...
KyD
post #2
14 January 2006, 23:51 UTC#2
That sucks dude, but I would have fucking ran like hell with the fucking charges they are gunna drop.
gman
post #3
14 January 2006, 23:54 UTC#3
You'll probably end up doing quite a few hours community service instead of a fine, or maybe a lesser fine for some community service.
nowhere
post #4
14 January 2006, 23:55 UTC#4
You were an accomplis and by filming it you pretty much prooved it to them. I guess you won't get into as much trouble and the guy who admitted it though.
Word
post #5
14 January 2006, 23:56 UTC#5
Sucks man, you can get the same fine here in NZ even though you wernt actually doing it.

Just plead not guilty at court, thats what I would be doing, but ask Doodlewski, heel know better than anyone.
stoopid
post #6
15 January 2006, 00:06 UTC#6
QUOTE(KyD @ Jan 14 2006, 05:51 PM) [snapback]266057[/snapback]

That sucks dude, but I would have fucking ran like hell with the fucking charges they are gunna drop.

yeah, but they had us cornered, there was nowhere to go

QUOTE(gman @ Jan 14 2006, 05:54 PM) [snapback]266059[/snapback]

You'll probably end up doing quite a few hours community service instead of a fine, or maybe a lesser fine for some community service.

I really hope I just have to do alot of community service, I really cant afford this shit


QUOTE(Word @ Jan 14 2006, 05:56 PM) [snapback]266063[/snapback]

Sucks man, you can get the same fine here in NZ even though you wernt actually doing it.

Just plead not guilty at court, thats what I would be doing, but ask Doodlewski, heel know better than anyone.

yeah I plan on it
gman
post #7
15 January 2006, 00:08 UTC#7
QUOTE(stoopid @ Jan 15 2006, 01:06 AM) [snapback]266083[/snapback]

I really hope I just have to do alot of community service, I really cant afford this shit




I hope so too, I think a court would take pity on you as you didn't really join in.
Word
post #8
15 January 2006, 00:13 UTC#8
Community service sucks ass, pay instead, seriously.
stoopid
post #9
15 January 2006, 00:16 UTC#9
QUOTE(Word @ Jan 14 2006, 06:13 PM) [snapback]266093[/snapback]

Community service sucks ass, pay instead, seriously.

well how much do you think itll be?
dgodlewski
post #10
15 January 2006, 00:18 UTC#10
II only have time to for a quick reply here as I am off to work, but if you were there and taped it you considered an "accessory to a criminal act," you didn’t actually commit the act, but you were there on your own will and did not leave, and recorded the whole thing. "Accessory to a criminal act" is basically the legal term for guilt by association, same thing someone would be charged with for being a "lookout" for a robbery, you didn’t commit the crime, but you knew what was going on and it was wrong and stayed there. When you get to court they wont take pitty on you, they will ask you if you knew it was wrong enough not to participate in, why did you stay there and record it and not leave?

As for penalties, it will all depend on your judge and your past record. Community Service will prolly be the absolute minimum. But based on the seriousness of vandalizing buildings and cars, I would be prepared to pay some restitution (paying for the damage you caused) and that isnt cheap. Its one thing to tag overpasses and road signs, but to destroy someone’s personal property is another, and is taken pretty seriously in the court system.


stoopid
post #11
15 January 2006, 00:26 UTC#11
QUOTE(dgodlewski @ Jan 14 2006, 06:18 PM) [snapback]266095[/snapback]

I only have time to for a quick reply here as I am off to work, but if you were there and taped it you considered an "accessory to a criminal act," you didn’t actually commit the act, but you were there on your own will and did not leave, and recorded the whole thing. "Accessory to a criminal act" is basically the legal term for guilt by association, same thing someone would be charged with for being a "lookout" for a robbery, you didn’t commit the crime, but you knew what was going on and it was wrong and stayed there. When you get to court they wont take pitty on you, they will ask you if you knew it was wrong enough not to participate in, why did you stay there and record it and not leave?

As for penalties, it will all depend on your judge and your past record. Community Service will prolly be the absolute minimum. But based on the seriousness of vandalizing buildings and cars, I would be prepared to pay some restitution (paying for the damage you caused) and that isnt cheap. Its one thing to tag overpasses and road signs, but to destroy someone’s personal property is another, and is taken pretty seriously in the court system.

ok, but only the 3 buildings were on tape [one of the buldings being an overpass, I just counted it as a building], the cars were not, and me and my other friend did not stay with him while he was doing the cars, we kept walking and he ran and caught up to us when he was done and then thats when the cops came....so...do you think I will only get in trouble for the 3 buildings, or the whole thing?

thanks again...
funk master steven
post #12
15 January 2006, 00:29 UTC#12
QUOTE(dgodlewski @ Jan 15 2006, 12:18 AM) [snapback]266095[/snapback]

I only have time to for a quick reply here as I am off to work, but if you were there and taped it you considered an "accessory to a criminal act," you didn’t actually commit the act, but you were there on your own will and did not leave, and recorded the whole thing. "Accessory to a criminal act" is basically the legal term for guilt by association, same thing someone would be charged with for being a "lookout" for a robbery, you didn’t commit the crime, but you knew what was going on and it was wrong and stayed there.

As for penalties, it will all depend on your judge and your past record. Community Service will prolly be the absolute minimum. But based on the seriousness of vandalizing buildings and cars, I would be prepared to pay some restitution (paying for the damage you caused) and that isnt cheap. Its one thing to tag overpasses and road signs, but to destroy someone’s personal property is another, and is taken pretty seriously in the court system.

(Bear in mind when it comes to actual court stuff, I can only speak on past experience. I am not a lawyer, and my only job is to get criminals into the courtroom, after that its up to the county prosecutor. So my assessment of the situation is based of past experience with graff, I’m not saying its 100% what’s gonna happen.)


You will probably have to pay for a new paint job on the cars, and will be made to clean the shit of the building. This is just my guess though. I'd plead guilty and throw yourself to the mercy of the court.

Oh, and cry a little, say somthing about peer pressure.
dgodlewski
post #13
15 January 2006, 00:32 UTC#13
QUOTE(stoopid @ Jan 15 2006, 01:26 AM) [snapback]266103[/snapback]

QUOTE(dgodlewski @ Jan 14 2006, 06:18 PM) [snapback]266095[/snapback]

I only have time to for a quick reply here as I am off to work, but if you were there and taped it you considered an "accessory to a criminal act," you didn’t actually commit the act, but you were there on your own will and did not leave, and recorded the whole thing. "Accessory to a criminal act" is basically the legal term for guilt by association, same thing someone would be charged with for being a "lookout" for a robbery, you didn’t commit the crime, but you knew what was going on and it was wrong and stayed there. When you get to court they wont take pitty on you, they will ask you if you knew it was wrong enough not to participate in, why did you stay there and record it and not leave?

As for penalties, it will all depend on your judge and your past record. Community Service will prolly be the absolute minimum. But based on the seriousness of vandalizing buildings and cars, I would be prepared to pay some restitution (paying for the damage you caused) and that isnt cheap. Its one thing to tag overpasses and road signs, but to destroy someone’s personal property is another, and is taken pretty seriously in the court system.

ok, but only the 3 buildings were on tape [one of the buldings being an overpass, I just counted it as a building], the cars were not, and me and my other friend did not stay with him while he was doing the cars, we kept walking and he ran and caught up to us when he was done and then thats when the cops came....so...do you think I will only get in trouble for the 3 buildings, or the whole thing?

thanks again...


Bear in mind when it comes to actual court stuff, I can only speak on past experience. I am not a lawyer, and my only job is to get criminals into the courtroom, after that its up to the county prosecutor. So my assessment of the situation is based of past experience with graff, I’m not saying its 100% what’s gonna happen.

The only thing that they can charge you for is the buildings if thats all on tape, they have no proof you were there for the cars and it wont fly in court. They might try to scare you and get you to rat out your freind saying if you do they wont charge you for the cars, so dont fall for that.
stoopid
post #14
15 January 2006, 00:36 UTC#14
QUOTE(funk master steven @ Jan 14 2006, 06:29 PM) [snapback]266104[/snapback]

QUOTE(dgodlewski @ Jan 15 2006, 12:18 AM) [snapback]266095[/snapback]

I only have time to for a quick reply here as I am off to work, but if you were there and taped it you considered an "accessory to a criminal act," you didn’t actually commit the act, but you were there on your own will and did not leave, and recorded the whole thing. "Accessory to a criminal act" is basically the legal term for guilt by association, same thing someone would be charged with for being a "lookout" for a robbery, you didn’t commit the crime, but you knew what was going on and it was wrong and stayed there.

As for penalties, it will all depend on your judge and your past record. Community Service will prolly be the absolute minimum. But based on the seriousness of vandalizing buildings and cars, I would be prepared to pay some restitution (paying for the damage you caused) and that isnt cheap. Its one thing to tag overpasses and road signs, but to destroy someone’s personal property is another, and is taken pretty seriously in the court system.

(Bear in mind when it comes to actual court stuff, I can only speak on past experience. I am not a lawyer, and my only job is to get criminals into the courtroom, after that its up to the county prosecutor. So my assessment of the situation is based of past experience with graff, I’m not saying its 100% what’s gonna happen.)


You will probably have to pay for a new paint job on the cars, and will be made to clean the shit of the building. This is just my guess though. I'd plead guilty and throw yourself to the mercy of the court.

Oh, and cry a little, say somthing about peer pressure.


lol, well I didnt really do it, im only guilty by association

QUOTE(dgodlewski @ Jan 14 2006, 06:32 PM) [snapback]266107[/snapback]

QUOTE(stoopid @ Jan 15 2006, 01:26 AM) [snapback]266103[/snapback]

QUOTE(dgodlewski @ Jan 14 2006, 06:18 PM) [snapback]266095[/snapback]

I only have time to for a quick reply here as I am off to work, but if you were there and taped it you considered an "accessory to a criminal act," you didn’t actually commit the act, but you were there on your own will and did not leave, and recorded the whole thing. "Accessory to a criminal act" is basically the legal term for guilt by association, same thing someone would be charged with for being a "lookout" for a robbery, you didn’t commit the crime, but you knew what was going on and it was wrong and stayed there. When you get to court they wont take pitty on you, they will ask you if you knew it was wrong enough not to participate in, why did you stay there and record it and not leave?

As for penalties, it will all depend on your judge and your past record. Community Service will prolly be the absolute minimum. But based on the seriousness of vandalizing buildings and cars, I would be prepared to pay some restitution (paying for the damage you caused) and that isnt cheap. Its one thing to tag overpasses and road signs, but to destroy someone’s personal property is another, and is taken pretty seriously in the court system.

ok, but only the 3 buildings were on tape [one of the buldings being an overpass, I just counted it as a building], the cars were not, and me and my other friend did not stay with him while he was doing the cars, we kept walking and he ran and caught up to us when he was done and then thats when the cops came....so...do you think I will only get in trouble for the 3 buildings, or the whole thing?

thanks again...


Bear in mind when it comes to actual court stuff, I can only speak on past experience. I am not a lawyer, and my only job is to get criminals into the courtroom, after that its up to the county prosecutor. So my assessment of the situation is based of past experience with graff, I’m not saying its 100% what’s gonna happen.

The only thing that they can charge you for is the buildings if thats all on tape, they have no proof you were there for the cars and it wont fly in court. They might try to scare you and get you to rat out your freind saying if you do they wont charge you for the cars, so dont fall for that.

well my friend is already going to be pleading guilty for everything, they even found the spray paint in his pockett when they busted us.

but thanks, this makes me feel a little better <3