11 May 2005, 15:38 UTC#1
As you may know, relitavely recently, the world seems to be stamping out on all groups like us. The following groups have been already treated to this- TBF, SCP, LNDL, FAT VIDEOS, CAMERA JUNKIES and now LUNATICKS. It may seem stupid, we have to take action. Whatever anyone says, it is happening. the groups above have had to take the first of this. To stop this, we are gonna need to do something. What that is, or what precuations they are is unknown to me.
But some ideas I have are as follows- a passowrd only section, it will reduce the available number of visitors to areas but will reduce the likely ness of unneeded eyes seeing the site. Most sites have a disclaimer, but of course that doesnt provide much protection. Any other ideas are extremely welcomed.
You can laugh at this thread, but slowly and surely people are starting to talk out against homegrown groups. And 99% of the time, it is serious and involves legal action. I dont want critical affliction to be targeted by newspapers, the media, or generally upset people about the things we do as much as anyone does. Thats why we have to take measures to try and stop this from happening.
11 May 2005, 15:47 UTC#2
fuck that, viva la revalution muda faker
from now one the next group to get fucked over we is gonna revolt, we is gonna call up news stations and yell shit at them while there on the air, same with tech tv, actually no one do that it's my idea
ill cut you up good bitches
11 May 2005, 16:02 UTC#3
lol but its true, the groups are begging to drop like flies
11 May 2005, 16:13 UTC#5
nah my parents are cool with it, they know all about it and basically dont give a shit, but im saying this for everyone, not just me. And no, we dont have any illegal vids on our website as far as I know. And I know they can't stop us doing what we do, but they can screw up our website and the internet e.t.c. which just happens to be a main part of how ppl can acces us.
11 May 2005, 16:17 UTC#6
thts the thing, we actually dont kno the legalities of some issues.
some of the issues brought up for lndl, I have actually never had knowledge of before.
11 May 2005, 16:22 UTC#7
Yer, I mean, at the end of the day I can pretty much say that all of the groups here were born out of generally having a laugh and messing around. And we don't want to ever be took to court or anythign serious like that, when we were only having fun. And of course, we are never going to have a lawer at this age, and know any of the laws they could bring out against us.
11 May 2005, 16:25 UTC#8
Its simple, don't hurt underage human beings badly, and you won't get charged, or hassled. Don't film or show any homegrown clips at school and you won't get hassled.
99% of the time, its just in the spur of the moment that someone tries to be stupid and show whatever to a teacher, or a parent gets anal. Keep it within your group and the internet, and friends..then nothing will happen. If your parents are cool with everything, then thats perfect....
11 May 2005, 16:26 UTC#9
we have had afew topics around this subject now.
I have been talking to some people about getting a consent form made out to stop GBH charges from popping up like LNDL has.
But the main problem really is your always going to get the "Jackass" badge stuck to all of these groups.... and with that comes people stamping that image on you... now I dont think Jackass is bad... But the media does as most people who read there papers are 25-80yrs old.... and most hate the whole image of kids making problems... and the whole chav image.
if we could get a group of us to find all the legal sides of all these issues before they pop backup then it would be great... but getting that to happen is te hard part as most groups dont think it will happen to them.
You always get the people who say " if the media/cops do anything ill tell them to fuck off". but that is on a message board... in real life I am sure it will be different... and if tehy did say that... well good luck.
I think theres going to be a big crack down now in england. and HGF is going to get smaller because of it. the only safe groups will be the over 18s.
so the only thing we can do to try to fight it is sort out some legal notes...
11 May 2005, 16:27 UTC#10
QUOTE (Shaun C-A @ May 11 2005, 04:22 PM) Yer, I mean, at the end of the day I can pretty much say that all of the groups here were born out of generally having a laugh and messing around. And we don't want to ever be took to court or anythign serious like that, when we were only having fun. And of course, we are never going to have a lawer at this age, and know any of the laws they could bring out against us.
we learned the hard way on what we could do in our small town, we went to court filming for our 2 vid it was really messed up as well
but then you learn what to do and not to do where you live, not to give cops your stuff till you make another copy, and that they need a warrent to search your stuff
11 May 2005, 16:30 UTC#11
Yeah, but like I said before...its none of the police's rights to interfere, if you don't fuck up other people's shit and don't blast minors with fire, then nothing will happen.
Besides, I think everyone is over reacting a bit on this, the police arn't going to bother trying to shut down and charge groups for basically doing nothing illegal..
11 May 2005, 16:30 UTC#12
Thats the sort of thing I am talking about little bits of info that everyone pics up.
Then all groups know the rights and what the cops can and cant do.
11 May 2005, 16:32 UTC#13
QUOTE (gman @ May 11 2005, 04:30 PM) Yeah, but like I said before...its none of the police's rights to interfere, if you don't fuck up other people's shit and don't blast minors with fire, then nothing will happen.
Besides, I think everyone is over reacting a bit on this, the police arn't going to bother trying to shut down and charge groups for basically doing nothing illegal..
word, if you get introuble with the police don't even mention you have a group, most police officers just will think it's kids being kids
thats what they basicly did for us cause they didn't know it was going on the internet
11 May 2005, 16:40 UTC#14
QUOTE I think theres going to be a big crack down now in england
hence the reason for this thread. And the other thing is, oce the media have thier story/ case, there's no stopping what they can do.
11 May 2005, 16:43 UTC#15
I agree. I dont wanna see underage groups get shut down...
lucky im 20
and the rest of retardz turn 18 before summer
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With CJ being shut down I am sure they know about this place now... and with LNDL also its more media looking.... which is why its good this is members only now.
So if anything is going to happen do it now before its too late.
11 May 2005, 16:46 UTC#17
QUOTE (EVIL-WEBBY @ May 11 2005, 04:43 PM) I agree. I dont wanna see underage groups get shut down...
lucky im 20
and the rest of retardz turn 18 before summer
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lucky
11 May 2005, 16:50 UTC#18
QUOTE QUOTE (EVIL-WEBBY @ May 11 2005, 04:43 PM)
I agree. I dont wanna see underage groups get shut down...
lucky im 20
and the rest of retardz turn 18 before summer
Ahh shit, that means us at CA being 14/15 this year are gonna have to avoid media contact for a few years. As others have said, I doubt anything will ever happen to us, but you can never tell, so we all need to be aware.
11 May 2005, 16:57 UTC#19
Well a keped the word of homegrown groups really low...I never mentioned anything.. I only said I know there are many groups like ourselfs around UK, Europe and America. But taking precautions wont hurt anyone, the cops havent contacted us so looks like we will not get into trouble, but we are cutting down on the filming atm, so gona do more like extreme sports filiming and add in couple of stunts in between and shit. But atm half of the guys have important exams also.
k
11 May 2005, 17:41 UTC#20
Hahaha, as I live in good ol´ Finland this shit doesnt concern me. Haha, other countries suck at life
11 May 2005, 17:42 UTC#21
QUOTE Hahaha, as I live in good ol´ Finland this shit doesnt concern me. Haha, other countries suck at life
Well man...vode... you got a garage?? a loft??? or a "kellari"??? I can move into?? lol
11 May 2005, 17:49 UTC#22
Haha, try to get a place with strategy "sossu maksaa"
11 May 2005, 17:57 UTC#23
QUOTE Haha, try to get a place with strategy "sossu maksaa
you may slap me, but I didnt understand that, maksaa is paying but I didnt get sossu.
11 May 2005, 18:18 UTC#24
those groups didnt get shutdown, they chose to quit.
11 May 2005, 18:20 UTC#25
we didnt quit, and we didnt get shut down, we takign a brake as of my family took the article really badly, and alot people turned against us such as many parents etc....
11 May 2005, 18:23 UTC#26
what we should all do in my opinion, is check out the new freak.inc movie it's hosted so you don't have to go through you send it
yeah
11 May 2005, 22:23 UTC#27
If you are planning to make and sell your own dvd and would like to profit from what you do...you need to learn that there is no such thing as bad publicity. Send those journalist my way if you dont want the coverage. [email address redacted]
11 May 2005, 22:51 UTC#28
lol. yeah I agree man. But for the young groups its hard to get that and use it in the right way without getting into shit. But for sites like you and Retardz I think it would be great.
11 May 2005, 23:34 UTC#29
once ive sorted my new office, I will be starting on the new wkh site, for our new videos, but also the new site will have a great big homegrown part, it will be news, interviews with groups and just a place to show your videos. This I think will make the groups strong, and not want to drop out as there apart of somthing big, this might even help to the new market of homegrown groups
12 May 2005, 00:05 UTC#30
QUOTE (WEAK @ May 11 2005, 10:23 PM) If you are planning to make and sell your own dvd and would like to profit from what you do...you need to learn that there is no such thing as bad publicity. Send those journalist my way if you dont want the coverage. [email address redacted]
exactly, but it makes it harder on underage groups cause there parents will get other parents smart remarks
but my mom is cool about that
