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post #1
22 February 2005, 14:16 UTC#1
Basically id really appreciate it, and im sure if this works other groups will find it useful, but im asking if those of you on HGF that know anything about the law when it comes to filming stunts, public pranks, making websites, schools or whateva. So that if we suddenly got stoped by the filth, or a random stranger or headmaster or whateva and told to take our site of the net, or delete our footage or whateva, we can turn around, and tell them a load of legal shit which meens were right and there wrong? etc

So yeah, if any of you guys know any legal shit about filming, please post it here.
post #2
22 February 2005, 14:35 UTC#2
Great idea! Anyone here a lawyer?
post #3
22 February 2005, 15:03 UTC#3
Disclaimers usually protect you, schools don't actually have a right to interfere with your private life if what you are doing is harmless to them or their education system
post #4
22 February 2005, 15:10 UTC#4
well my grandad is a barrister so I have plenty of law books around but I wouldn't know where to start to look for anything.
but when he gets back from work I could tell you lots of stuff. External image not preserved — inspect source: http://homegrownforums.com/html/emoticons/Copy of happy.gif

I must of looked through about 5 books now but I don't know what for!!
is there anything persific (Dunno how to spell it) you want to know. Because that could be alot easier than searching through loads of books when I could just go straight to it. External image not preserved — inspect source: http://homegrownforums.com/html/emoticons/Copy of happy.gif
post #5
22 February 2005, 15:23 UTC#5
A major thing is not to brake stuff, or damage property. Easy shit like that.
Also not fighting with random people, or playign dangerous pranks on people you dont know. Cause there are alot of fukers that will get you done for that.
Also there is a very strong 1 about flashing, you can get done for childpornography if the girl is under17!. So thats a 1 you gota be carefull with!

Kalle
post #6
22 February 2005, 15:29 UTC#6
QUOTE (Kalle @ Feb 22 2005, 03:23 PM) A major thing is not to brake stuff, or damage property. Easy shit like that.
Also not fighting with random people, or playign dangerous pranks on people you dont know. Cause there are alot of fukers that will get you done for that.
Also there is a very strong 1 about flashing, you can get done for childpornography if the girl is under17!. So thats a 1 you gota be carefull with!

Kalle

I have been in the same relationship for the last 5 years, but for you younger guys you should just pretend your filming the titties and realize how fresh it is and leave it at that putting that shit on video can get your ass in hella trouble thats what happened to the girls gone wild guy. or atleast just film it for personal footage I gots alot of that
post #7
22 February 2005, 16:24 UTC#7
QUOTE (gman @ Feb 22 2005, 03:03 PM) schools don't actually have a right to interfere with your private life if what you are doing is harmless to them or their education system

Yeah. My school were being ghey and called my parents and told me to take down the site. I didn't though, and they did fuck all. It has nothing to do with them.
post #8
22 February 2005, 16:28 UTC#8
QUOTE (M0N0 @ Feb 22 2005, 05:24 PM) QUOTE (gman @ Feb 22 2005, 03:03 PM) schools don't actually have a right to interfere with your private life if what you are doing is harmless to them or their education system

Yeah. My school were being ghey and called my parents and told me to take down the site. I didn't though, and they did fuck all. It has nothing to do with them.

how did they find out about it?

post #9
22 February 2005, 16:29 UTC#9
Apparently some parent complained...
post #10
22 February 2005, 16:38 UTC#10
My school doesent give a shit...infact we even showed one ov are early previews in class!!!
post #11
22 February 2005, 20:12 UTC#11
our school wanted theold site taken down, but tht may have been because we had a game where u could shoot loads of heads of one of the students we diddnt like, but they isn't botherd now.
post #12
22 February 2005, 20:19 UTC#12
If you're out, and you like yell badwords at someone, or give them the finger, can't the police not do anything as long as they didn't see it and its not on film of anysort?
post #13
23 February 2005, 03:04 UTC#13
imnotsorry posted a release form ill post it in a sec

my school shut down our site for a while, but alot of teachers enjoy our vids also I know alot of the officers and there pretty cool as long as im not CAUGHT breaking shit they let alot go with us but they do pull us over to fucking much

british people say headmaster thats funny
post #14
23 February 2005, 03:37 UTC#14
Ok basically all you need to protect your website is a well written statement that says all people federally employed people(this covers teachers, police, judges, and basically anybody your parents pay taxes for salarys) stay out.

You have the right to refuse showing police your footage without a warrant. Police can not legally search your stuff without a warrant, this is called search and seizure (remember this if you get in some trouble)

Remember that anything you say can be used against you in court so keep your damn mouth shut no matter how hard it is, if things get serious contact a lawyer for advise.

Remember police only have the right to investigate, therefore you DO NOT have to tell them shit, once again consult a lawyer.

You have the right to film on public property without a license.

Private property must have permission from owner to be legal (get a written consent)

Anything else just ask.
post #15
23 February 2005, 13:13 UTC#15
isn't most of that common knowlege
post #16
23 February 2005, 13:40 UTC#16
Not really funk master steven.

JCM, how much "proof" do they need to get a warrant?
post #17
23 February 2005, 14:04 UTC#17
Eh, I dont think they will get one. It would be a waste of time they have to go to the judege for one right?
post #18
23 February 2005, 15:06 UTC#18
QUOTE (JCM @ Feb 23 2005, 03:37 AM) Ok basically all you need to protect your website is a well written statement that says all people federally employed people(this covers teachers, police, judges, and basically anybody your parents pay taxes for salarys) stay out.

You have the right to refuse showing police your footage without a warrant. Police can not legally search your stuff without a warrant, this is called search and seizure (remember this if you get in some trouble)

Remember that anything you say can be used against you in court so keep your damn mouth shut no matter how hard it is, if things get serious contact a lawyer for advise.

Remember police only have the right to investigate, therefore you DO NOT have to tell them shit, once again consult a lawyer.

You have the right to film on public property without a license.

Private property must have permission from owner to be legal (get a written consent)

Anything else just ask.

im not critiquing you to make you look like a dipshit, you gave out inaccurate information.

a.) police can and will search if they have probable cause. Look up the 4th Amendment.


b.) Nothing you say can be used against you until you have been read your miranda rights. If the police arrest you, they will read you your miranda rights. Keep in mind that there is a difference between being detained and arrested. If you have committed a serious crime, such as a felony, your best off keeping your mouth shut. It's important your friends keep their mouths shut as well.

I'll throw in my 2 cents right here - if youve committed a serious crime, the police will question you before they arrest you. They will lie over and over and over again. They will make up anything they can to get you to talk. If your with your friends, and your being detained and questioned seperately, I promise you they will tell you shit like "your friend just ratted you out, your going to jail buddy unless you speak up". You cannot fall for this shit. If you plan on filming some risky shit, you need to speak with everyone involved before hand. Make sure everyone know's what to expect if you are to get caught, and make sure everyone knows to keep their mouths shut reguardless of what they are told.

However, if you committed a minor crime, sometimes you can talk your way out of it and get off with a warning.

c.) "You have the right to film on public property without a license."

that statement is not true. You will need a permit from your city to film on public property. If you dont get a permit, you can be fined a shitload of money. Although, I've never heard of this being enforced. Look at tourists for example.

I guess thats it. I'll throw in 2 other things though...

1.) if your under 18, there is a huge advantage to being minor. If you commit a crime...your punishment, unless tried as an adult, will be extremely weak.

2.) kiddy porn, dont fuck with that shit. Dont film it, dont download it, dont host it, and dont show it off...especially if you are 18 or over.
post #19
23 February 2005, 17:42 UTC#19
Thanks for the clarification, I think thats a pretty comprehensive list of what to be precautious about
post #20
23 February 2005, 19:32 UTC#20
it's NOT Illegal to get run over!
post #21
24 February 2005, 00:22 UTC#21
that all makes sense but, if you have a disclaimer on your site are they allowed to get pissed off at you after you warned them. because some how my school counsiler found out about my site and called both my parents at work and told them that every thing on it was offending and inappropriate, which is total bullshit, so I was just wondering if the school is really allowed to notify my parents and try starting a bunch of crap when my site isn't really a big deal when they should be complaining about child porn sites like you have said. because now it seems like I can't even put anything on it that I want without the fuking school getting pissed... External image not preserved — inspect source: http://homegrownforums.com/html/emoticons/Copy of fuk.gif
post #22
24 February 2005, 00:26 UTC#22
QUOTE (FUCK WHITEPOWER @ Feb 23 2005, 03:06 PM)
c.) "You have the right to film on public property without a license."

that statement is not true. You will need a permit from your city to film on public property. If you dont get a permit, you can be fined a shitload of money. Although, I've never heard of this being enforced. Look at tourists for example.


not in arkansas I check the law books and talked to a police officer who has helped my friends get out of alot of shit and it is cool to film on public property here just check the laws

if your seriouse about your shit learn about it yourself and you can be better informed

but thanks for the other info man
post #23
24 February 2005, 00:28 UTC#23
QUOTE (funk_master_steven @ Feb 24 2005, 12:26 AM) QUOTE (FUCK WHITEPOWER @ Feb 23 2005, 03:06 PM)
c.) "You have the right to film on public property without a license."

that statement is not true. You will need a permit from your city to film on public property. If you dont get a permit, you can be fined a shitload of money. Although, I've never heard of this being enforced. Look at tourists for example.


not in arkansas I check the law books and talked to a police officer who has helped my friends get out of alot of shit and it is cool to film on public property here just check the laws

if your seriouse about your shit learn about it yourself and you can be better informed

but thanks for the other info man

QUOTE Not really funk master steven.

JCM, how much "proof" do they need to get a warrant?


im sorry I meant in the hg world that is common knowlege

they need a court appointed search warrent so they have to go through a judge to get one so it is hard, unless this isn't your first arrest then it gets easier and easier
post #24
24 February 2005, 00:45 UTC#24
Yeah I did forget to mention laws vary by state, sorry for the confusion. Your best bet would be to contact a lawyer in your state and ask any questions you may have.
post #25
24 February 2005, 00:54 UTC#25
how much will that cost, a lawyer would be expensive and I don't got much money after buying adobe premier...
post #26
24 February 2005, 00:59 UTC#26
Alot of lawyers give free.... advice.
post #27
24 February 2005, 01:13 UTC#27
Exactly, all you have to do is call the office and request to speak to somebody, tell them you need legal advise and they'll tell you what you need to know.
post #29
24 February 2005, 02:39 UTC#29
It's called an ordinance, and it varies by city, not by state. Each city has something called a "film permit office". If you wanna make your video, you go to the city and get a permit. Because the law doesnt distiguish between amateur filmmakers and big time film companies, the rules are the same for everyone. Does that mean they're gonna give a shit, nah. so shut the fuck up about it. External image not preserved — inspect source: http://homegrownforums.com/html/emoticons/Copy of tongue.gif
post #30
24 February 2005, 02:46 UTC#30
QUOTE (FUCK WHITEPOWER @ Feb 24 2005, 02:39 AM) It's called an ordinance, and it varies by city, not by state. Each city has something called a "film permit office". If you wanna make your video, you go to the city and get a permit. Because the law doesnt distiguish between amateur filmmakers and big time film companies, the rules are the same for everyone. Does that mean they're gonna give a shit, nah. so shut the fuck up about it. External image not preserved — inspect source: http://homegrownforums.com/html/emoticons/Copy of tongue.gif

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